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AndyManc
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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Location: Manchester
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 Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 7:58 pm |
| Always Tyred wrote: | | You could just clear you cache more often. |
If you clear your cookies the 'opt out' cookie is removed and the advertising cookie put back in.
I should imagine this is done when you log on into your Wiggle account or access a Wiggle page.
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Always Tyred
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 4052
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 8:01 pm |
| AndyManc wrote: | | Always Tyred wrote: | | You could just clear you cache more often. |
If you clear your cookies the 'opt out' cookie is removed and the advertising cookie put back in.
I should imagine this is done when you log on into your Wiggle account or access a Wiggle page.
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So clear your cache again!!
I private browse - the cache and history gets deleted every time I shoot Firefox down. As such, I get regailed with advertising for stuff I'm not the least interested in, rather than stuff similar to things I've recently bought. 
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jonmack
Joined: 11 May 2009
Posts: 145
Location: Weston-s-Mare, UK
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 8:07 pm |
What the hell are Ads? Been a long time since I've sen any of those!
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fossyant
Joined: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 1306
Location: South Manchester
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 8:26 pm |
| MonkeyMonster wrote: | | adblock plus ftw - Its glorious to hide all adverts and unwanted webpage crap. |
+1 here for Firefox.....
Makes a huge difference in page loads as it's not waiting for 'other' servers.....
I don't want the adverts - these animated ones hog bandwidth
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itboffin
Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 4832
Location: Marlborough, Windshire
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flicksta
Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 65
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 9:07 pm |
If you are really bothered by stuff like this.............stop using the internet, it's happening to you all day, every day.
Pretty much every site you look at that is supported by advertising will be part of an advertising network or two, or three, or four. Cookies all over your machine, you visit here, you may well be part of a 'cycling enthusiast' segment. Go to another site and see cycle-related ads. Both websites get a share of the revenue. It's old stuff.
That said, the wiggle stuff is very pervasive, and by the sounds of some of the comments here, they are overdoing it.
Nothing sinister though. Google do far, far worse.
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matchbook
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 9:27 pm |
From another forum:
| Quote: | 'Kin liberty I say, how very dare they show what I've browsed as advertising banners on other sites - no privacy these days.
Reply from Wiggle:
"Thank you for your email. I am sorry that you have found the Criteo banners intrusive. In this email, I would like to take the opportunity to explain why we use these banners, but also to tell you how you can opt-out of seeing them in future. If you are still unhappy and have further questions, then please feel free to send an email to me. Your views are important to us.
Criteo banners display banners that are personal and specific to each and every Wiggle user. Each day thousands of people view Wiggle Criteo banners both on websites in the UK and overseas. Thousands of people click on them and buy from us. In fact the % of people who actively click on them and buy from us is significantly higher than from standard banners. The reason for this is that standard banners are not personalised and show only one kind of message to everyone, whereas Criteo banners generally show products that people are interested in. This kind of behaviour retargeting advertising is likely to become more widespread on the net, for all advertisers, in the future because, on the whole, it statistically provides a better user experience.
The Criteo system filters out products that users have bought from Wiggle; the algorithm also stops retargeting people who do not click on the banners after a period of time.[...] |
It is a little unsettling how easily we can be tracked across the web in such a way, indirectly by companies we have been customers of, especially given the potential next step, trialled in secret by BT on their paying customers a year or so ago (AKA the Phorm debacle), which involved diverting all internet traffic through special proxy servers, which then add "targeted advertising" based on the content of said internet traffic. As a result of these secret trials, the European Commission is currently in the process of taking legal action against the UK Government due to its failure to "ensure that British citizens fully benefit from the safeguards set out in EU law concerning confidentiality of electronic communications".
Despite all this, I can't really blame Wiggle for using 3rd party tracking cookie providers, their response/justification is reasonable enough, and they are far from the only company to do so.
Aside from Noscript/Adblock there are also firefox plugins available which maintain opt-out web cookies for various advertising networks.
Haven't noticed any Wiggle adverts so far at all on Youtube etc myself. Not using firefox+adblock or anything, but still I also don't notice very many ads at all while browsing.
Might be something to do with the contents of my hosts file though. A snippet:
| Code: | 127.0.0.1 googleads.g.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 whitepapers.theregister.co.uk
127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 googleads.g.doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 servedby2.advertising.com
127.0.0.1 ad.uk.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 bannerfarm.ace.advertising.com
127.0.0.1 m1.emea.2mdn.net
127.0.0.1 ace.advertising.com
127.0.0.1 tbgadserver.com
127.0.0.1 img-cdn.mediaplex.com
127.0.0.1 mediaplex.com
127.0.0.1 cdn5.tribalfusion.com
127.0.0.1 tribalfusion.com
127.0.0.1 a.tribalfusion.com
127 0 0 1 pixel.quantserve.com
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Always Tyred
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 4052
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 9:31 pm |
| itboffin wrote: | Cookies are nothing do a search for "Network behavioural targeting"  |
You do the god damn search. I don't want to be sent adverts for heuristic algorithm software and neiral network computing simply becuase some clever d!ck told me to do a search for targeted behavioural toejamming.
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itboffin
Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 4832
Location: Marlborough, Windshire
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chuckcork
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 1286
Location: Somewhere in Surrey
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CdrJake
Joined: 25 Sep 2009
Posts: 134
Location: Dartmouth/Portsmouth
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alfablue
Joined: 05 Jun 2005
Posts: 6013
Location: Bath, UK
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:21 pm |
| chuckcork wrote: |
I'd suggest doing so regardless, everytime I've done a web-shop price comparison and bothered to include them in it they've been way more expensive than anywhere else.
I guess thats how the CTC can have them as their source and they still make money.... |
They can be cheapest, they will pricematch if you ask, and then use the £5 off £50 voucher you get every time you change your newsletter preferences. I recently got some Shimano M076 shoes for £45 doing just this, cheapest elsewhere, £50 (Merlin).
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jamesco
Joined: 25 Feb 2009
Posts: 62
Location: Ealing/Shoreditch, London
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:55 pm |
Like others have said, use Firefox with Adblock Plus and clear your cache regularly (ctrl-shift-delete). In fact, rejecting cookies is a good idea. NoScript is an option, but a bit of a pain.
Don't forget that Flash includes its own version of cookies - to delete them, go to here and consider installing the FireFox add-on BetterPrivacy to automate clearing Flash cookies.
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