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blister pus
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 Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:00 am |
| Northwind wrote: | Looks exactly the same as mine, except that mine flaps like it's trying to fly  |
I put my guard back on last night and had a quick look at the bracket and holes again and you'd only have to strengthen the hole edges by making them thicker by a couple of fractions of a millimetre and move the holes a couple of millimetre closer together so the bracket grips tighter and you've solved your problem and you wouldn't even notice that on a pic. You'd have to do a side by side comparison and it's the type of change that would slide quite happily by.
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Hitby
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:04 am |
Pic of the cycraguards
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:12 am |
but iIt's a crud raceguard copy only with a completely over the top and unnecessary (and ugly) clamp.
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Hitby
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:29 am |
Personally I think the clamp is excellent. Sure, it's pretty big but I couldn't care less what it looks like as long as it does it's job.
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:40 am |
And that's fine and dandy, glad you're happy with it but it still doesn't stop the clamp being completely unnecessary (and ugly).
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Hitby
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:48 am |
Why is it unnecessary? It hasn't broken yet which, by all accounts, the less engineered version on the raceguard does, often!
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:09 pm |
Look around at the 08 raceguard to see why it's unnecessary. The raceguard's been a market leader for years and rightly so and if you read the comments people loved them and loved 08 version, what seems to have happened with the early 09 version is a shim fark up which rendered it useless on 27.2 seatposts, but they rectified that and re-did the shims by the looks of it. So people who bought the later 09 version have no complaint and the majority think it's still the best product out there.
The other issue a few people were having is with the new " 1 bolt " design. What I was trying to figure out in this thread is why the difference between the early 09 and later 09 model I've got - because mine's just about the perfect balance. I'm pretty sure they've altered later production runs to rectify what was going on with Northwinds model, it wouldn't take much to fix the more I think about it and you'd never really know.
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yeehaamcgee
Joined: 07 May 2007
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:46 pm |
| Hitby wrote: | | Why is it unnecessary? It hasn't broken yet which, by all accounts, the less engineered version on the raceguard does, often! |
Just give up, you'll never in a million years actually end an argument with this guy.
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:49 pm |
| yeehaamcgee wrote: | | Hitby wrote: | | Why is it unnecessary? It hasn't broken yet which, by all accounts, the less engineered version on the raceguard does, often! |
Just give up, you'll never in a million years actually end an argument with this guy. |
Who asked you to pipe up, mind your own ******* business, ****.
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joec1
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:53 pm |
Any of the popular ones mentioned actually work.
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yeehaamcgee
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:01 pm |
| yeehaamcgee wrote: | | blister pus wrote: | | Who asked you to pipe up, mind your own ******* business, ****. |
You're amazing, man, you really are. |
Thanks, now back in your box and go suffocate quietly.
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myopic
Joined: 07 Jan 2009
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Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:53 pm |
My 09 rear race guard looks exactly like Blister Pus's and has exactly the same trouble as Northwind's. I had to tighten it to stop it spinning round and sticking out sideways when I went over bumps, round corners and then it won't tighten or slacken due to the knurled nut spinning in the plastic sleeve - really frustarting! Molegrips didn't work on mine. thinking about putting some Araldite or something on it to try and lock it into place.
I've got mine mounted on the very top of the seat tube so that its a consistent heigth and not affected by my saddle being raised or lowered.
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 2:06 pm |
Northwind's suffered from all faults though to a point where his bracket rattles about in the blade holes and he says the plastic is too thin. ....that particular fault is a million miles from mine shown in the pix.
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:21 pm |
Curiosity got the better of me. I emailed crudcatcher to see what mods they've made (if any) to the 09 raceguard. This is what i got back:
| Quote: | As far as we can ascertain, people are fitting raceguards without bothering to use the correct shim, then tightening up as far as they can until the threads touch in the middle. This causes the threads to lock.
We have changed the bolt design slightly to stop this happening, but it won't work well unless customers read the instructions(20 seconds!) and use the biggest shim they can fit in the bracket.
We have also beefed up the intersection between bracket and blade, but you would hardly notice it by eye. |
which seems bang on to me.
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Northwind
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:50 pm |
you don't have to do anything NW. Just take a few pix and explain what you're not happy with and I'm pretty sure you'll be able to come to some mutual arrangement. And the problem is a roll-up combination of all the little things stated and they should know exactly what they've altered, but they most definitely have made alterations during the 09 production run to get to the product I've got on my bike.
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Northwind
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blister pus
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:14 pm |
no, bare in mind I took the body of the text from the email so it sounds slightly harsh the way it's quoted. They did state the number of returns they get and they seem genuinely interested in fixing problems and giving customer satisfaction.
In your case, the fact that you had all the original ailments, including the (and it's important) weaker blade hole areas puts you in a prime position I would have thought. Just make sure you capture it on film so you can back what you say up. I do agree though when it first came out and you were a 27.2 post owner you would have been left high and dry. I'm actually surprised you kept it. I'd have had it back there and then.
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