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kopite1979
richclip wrote:
Evening All,

My first post! I'm hoping for a bit of advice on why my shiny new Orange 5 seems horribly light at the front, to the extent that I wandered off the track 3 times at Llandegla today and scared myself witless on the wet rocky bits. There was absolutely zero grip from the front wheel - I nearly came a cropper about a dozen times on wet rocks as the front slipped sideways.

I've done the same ride on my Merlin hardtail without similar problems, but have had my fillings shaken loose! I've also been round a few times in the dry on the Orange without any problems. Could it be a tyre issue? It felt more like there was no weight at the front, but I haven't adjusted anything since I last rode there, and I was consciously trying to put more weight forward.

Hope somebody can help as it really knocked my confidence and I've been gloomy ever since. Crying or Very sad

cheers,

Rich


wierd... i was at llandegla saturday morning experiencing the same problem with the same tyre! my brand new shiny bike was on its first ride with 2.4 mountain king supersonic on the front and it felt like i was riding round an ice rink! someone suggested i let some air out though because it was solid as a rock

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kopite1979
slimboyjim wrote:
Given that you say you've been around in the dry with no problems I'd guess it was your tyres rather than your technique.

I recently got myself a Zesty after owning a GT Avalanche - I had similar problems when I first went out. I think half the problem is that you enter stuff MUCH quicker so there is more forces acting on the front wheel as it undergoes braking/cornering, etc. I ended up getting myself a new front tyre and it has improved things but just be aware of your speed if you're not having too much fun! I'm now pretty used to the speed and handling of the bike (and I've have improved my technique) so it's no longer an issue.

Technique wise it is a new bike so it will take you a little while to get used to it - you say you were scared on the wet rocks so subconciously you may have shifted your weight back? I found that, moving to a full suss, I would sit down more when I got tired - not an issue most of the time but make sure you are out of the saddle for anything technical (sorry if I'm telling you stuff that's REALLY basic but you never know...). I never used to sit on my hardtail as I used to hammer it Smile

I'm getting out of that habit now you'll be pleased to know.

Finally, I did a skills course recently and it has boosted my skills/speed/confidence no end. I'd recommend one if you feel you're struggling to progress after taking everyones advice - can't hurt. Mine was with Cycleactive and I'd recommend them.

Best of luck,

James


double wierd... i started last year on an avalanche and have just bought a zesty! Laughing

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richclip wrote:
Evening All,

My first post! I'm hoping for a bit of advice on why my shiny new Orange 5 seems horribly light at the front, to the extent that I wandered off the track 3 times at Llandegla today and scared myself witless on the wet rocky bits. There was absolutely zero grip from the front wheel - I nearly came a cropper about a dozen times on wet rocks as the front slipped sideways.

I've done the same ride on my Merlin hardtail without similar problems, but have had my fillings shaken loose! I've also been round a few times in the dry on the Orange without any problems. Could it be a tyre issue? It felt more like there was no weight at the front, but I haven't adjusted anything since I last rode there, and I was consciously trying to put more weight forward.

Hope somebody can help as it really knocked my confidence and I've been gloomy ever since. Crying or Very sad

cheers,

Rich


Can you ride your bike in a circle in your back garden if yes what you complaining at then

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NatoED
i've found my mountain kings top for wet stuff (but mine are 2.0 )

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kopite1979
NatoED wrote:
i've found my mountain kings top for wet stuff (but mine are 2.0 )


what psi you runnin on?

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slimboyjim
kopite1979 wrote:
double wierd... i started last year on an avalanche and have just bought a zesty! Laughing


Good taste Laughing

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x-isle
I've got a 5 with the standard Kings.

In this weather I have reduced down to 25psi (don't dare go lower) and makes a big difference.

It could also be that your rear shock is too soft, meaning a lot of weight being transfered to the back.

Just try fiddling with all the settings of the shock and fork along with the tyre pressures, and of course, getting some weight forward for grip.

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tompug
I find when loosing grip in mud, especially off camber corners to get on my tire edges as they get more grip (I run highrollers/swampys). Easiest way to do this is to get your knee out like they do in superbike racing, about 45-90 degrees and lean into the trail.

this is the best pic I could find to demonstrate what I mean.



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yeehaamcgee
except you'r doing the exact opposite of a "superbike" lean Laughing
EDIT: here's a pic to show what I mean by "opposite"


you're leaning to the left, and leaning the bike to the right. In motorcycle racing, they lean the bike and themselves over int he same way.
It's actually not as pronounced these days as it has been in the past.

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i agree with above, your leaning the wrong way, which makes you have to lean the bike the opposite way even more leaned over and increases the chances of you washing out

put a super tacky high roller 2.35 on the front, it should help with your lack of cornering ability and give you some confidence to improve

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i agree with above, your leaning the wrong way, which makes you have to lean the bike the opposite way even more leaned over and increases the chances of you washing out

Actually I know what he's doing, and why.
The side knobs on some tyres can produce excellent cornering traction, BUT, in order to use them, the bike has to be cranked over quite far into the lean.
If you're not at a high speed, then you can't lean that far, so the solution is to lean your bike underneath you.

I don't think you should be leaning so far in the opposite direction though Laughing

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yeehaamcgee wrote:
rhyko7 wrote:
i agree with above, your leaning the wrong way, which makes you have to lean the bike the opposite way even more leaned over and increases the chances of you washing out

Actually I know what he's doing, and why.
The side knobs on some tyres can produce excellent cornering traction, BUT, in order to use them, the bike has to be cranked over quite far into the lean.
If you're not at a high speed, then you can't lean that far, so the solution is to lean your bike underneath you.

I don't think you should be leaning so far in the opposite direction though Laughing


LOl its a good theory and makes sense but im quite sure thats not why he is doing that Laughing

maxxis tyres are like that, they suddenly catch you when you lean over and start to wash out

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