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ride_whenever Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 8281 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 10:26 am |
| Roastie wrote: | Crank Bros Eggbeaters: 4-sided entry. They engage if you slide in backward, forward or even just mash down on them. Very positive once in. Loads of free float (two settings based on cleat location) but also easy to get out of.
Plus, paired with a decent pair of MTB shoes (as with SPDs) means you can walk in them safely too. |
Great apart from the whole unexpected falling to pieces bit, and cleats that are made of cheese.
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biondino Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 5153 Location: Putney, SW London
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Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 10:56 am |
| ride_whenever wrote: | | Roastie wrote: | Crank Bros Eggbeaters: 4-sided entry. They engage if you slide in backward, forward or even just mash down on them. Very positive once in. Loads of free float (two settings based on cleat location) but also easy to get out of.
Plus, paired with a decent pair of MTB shoes (as with SPDs) means you can walk in them safely too. |
Great apart from the whole unexpected falling to pieces bit, and cleats that are made of cheese. |
What a silly comment. They're a country mile ahead of SPDs for commuting as the in and out mechanism is so easy, reliable and works 100% of the time. No glancing, pedal-flipping or swearing needed.
And both my pairs have been totally reliable
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shouldbeinbed Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 285
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hillrep Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 43 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:43 pm |
I started off using single sided pedals - but since I am almost always using cycling shoes I would often end up having to faff about flipping pedals round once I was going. I now have double sided SPDs (M520s I think) and this is much better for my urban commute. Clipping in and unclipping are very easy and I have (almost never) had a "clipless moment".
You can even do short distances in normal shoes but I wouldn't recommend doing this too regularly.
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PBo Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 223 Location: Sheffield
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 2:44 pm |
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Sometimes its the spd cleat on the shoe thats the problem. My regular shoes are spot on, my spare pair are a sod to escape from once cipped in. I've found if I twist my heel inward rather than out, it unclips much easier.
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there are two different cleat models. one of them only unclips with the heel outward movement, the other in pretty much any direction - even yanking up.
make sure you know which you have!
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HamishD Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 8
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BigSpecs Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 183 Location: Glasgow
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:04 pm |
I have a few bikes and have used them all for commuting at one time or another. Here are my thoughts...
SPD R's with road shoes are not ideal for the reasons you outlined. They are hard to clip in and out of at lights and require a degree of thought/ foot dexterity that double siders don't. They are also crap to walk in and mark you out as a cyclist amongst your colleagues.
I switched to recessed cleats and SPD's. Initially I had ones with a platform fitted to one side to make them SPD and flat. I have now taken the platforms off, as double sided SPDs are just so easy to use. Cheap too. There are some bargains on ebay.
Hope this helps.
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iPete Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Posts: 32 Location: London Heathrow
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:04 pm |
Not wanting to hi-jack but similar question really, anyone recomend a system suitable for a first timer currently using toe clips. Would like it to be easily compatible with booties for the winter.
Deal with lots of traffic, so quick entry/release is essential and the ability to walk after is important. Reading this thread it sounds like double sided SPD is the way forward? Like the look of egg-beats but sound like they are more MTB?
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Wooliferkins Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 889 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:08 pm |
Speedplay Frogs even I can unclip from these no problem. No moving parts/bits to unscrew and easy to walk in MTB/touring shoes.
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shouldbeinbed Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 285
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Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 11:50 pm |
| PBo wrote: | | shouldbeinbed wrote: |
Sometimes its the spd cleat on the shoe thats the problem. My regular shoes are spot on, my spare pair are a sod to escape from once cipped in. I've found if I twist my heel inward rather than out, it unclips much easier.
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there are two different cleat models. one of them only unclips with the heel outward movement, the other in pretty much any direction - even yanking up.
make sure you know which you have! |
cheers, I assumed they were all the same, I'll have a proper look
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BentMikey Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 4681
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:06 am |
Look Deltas here, but then I rarely unclip:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cedars+road+london&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=19.648276,27.993164&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=51.461316,-0.148547&panoid=OAHxf-i2iheuSKtnT8yvuA&cbp=12,218.7,,0,5&hq=&hnear=Cedars+Rd,+London+SW4,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.46132,-0.148702&spn=0.010575,0.019441&z=16
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Onan Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 260
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:07 pm |
Just as an aside, and I certainly don't think my opinion on the matter counts for much, I'm still not 100% convinced of the need for foot retention of any kind. Not if your bike has a freewheel anyway.
I do wear my SPDs when I feel like it, because I quite like the feeling of being clipped in, but it has everything to do with not having to worry about my foot slipping off the pedal, and nothing whatsoever to do with making me faster.
Most of the time I commute in trainers, because it's just tonnes more practical, so for me, that's the best sollution.
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Rich_E Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 128 Location: London
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 12:28 pm |
Another thing to consider, especially if you are new to Clipless and have bought SPDs is to buy the multi-directional cleats. These are about £9 and allow you to twist your foot off in any direction, rather than just the single twist direction.
That way, if you have a 'moment' and forget, any kind of move to put your foot down is likely to disengage the cleat.
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g00se Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Norwich <-> London
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:14 pm |
| iPete wrote: | Not wanting to hi-jack but similar question really, anyone recomend a system suitable for a first timer currently using toe clips. Would like it to be easily compatible with booties for the winter.
Deal with lots of traffic, so quick entry/release is essential and the ability to walk after is important. Reading this thread it sounds like double sided SPD is the way forward? Like the look of egg-beats but sound like they are more MTB? |
I'm toying with trying these out. they seem to have a good reputation:
http://powergrips.mrpbike.com/
http://www.mtbr.com/cat/accessories/extras/power-grips/pedal-strap/PRD_360092_117crx.aspx[/url]
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g00se Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Norwich <-> London
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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:17 pm |
Sorry - didn't fully read your post - thought you were looking for something to use with regular boots.
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