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dsmiff
I currently have a GT i-drive XCR and ride 2/3 times a week at llandegla (black) and occasionally the Marin and Penmachno.

I brought the bike 3 years ago on Halfords cycle scheme (supersonic's fault!). Question is do I take the plunge again or should I just upgrade a few parts.

As I am stuck with £1000 and I don't think I'm going to get anything more better.

I have already swapped the wheels (XT / 717), cranks (Evolve), shifters (XT), new rear mech (XT) cassette / chain and bars, stem and saddle!! All that is standard is the front fork, rear shock, seat tube and frame!

Is it worth just swapping the shock (Ario 2.1) to a Monarch 4.2 (which I can get for £180) - My problem is this is my first and only Full suspension bike and I have no idea if the shock I have is any good, but from reading reviews of bikes that have it fitted it is constantly slated, I did ride a mates Comencal meta 5.2 briefly at a downhill track and it seems loads smoother than mine at the back, mine feels quite bumpy by comparison?

One more question the shock I need is 190 x 50 – However I’m looking at 190 x 51 and it is available in normal or high volume – what is the difference (other than for some reason the HV is cheaper) ???


Or should I

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I'd upgrade unless you have major components wearing out (drivetrain/pivots etc)

can't advise on the shock except that shinier is (obviously Wink ) better

what fork do you have? could be a nice revamp to change out fork and shock

Another option; you could look for a frame/fork deal and swap kit over, some stuff may need to be renewed (seatpost, front mech etc) but nothing too drastic I don't think. I suspect you could do alright for a grand though.....

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I've got £1000 to send on a complete new bike if I go through the cyclesheme, if I don't go with the scheme I'll only spend a couple of hundred pounds unless I can get a great deal on a fork (currently has a recon U turn 130 - 100mm coil which seems OK?) I will only look to swap the shock.

It would be nice if I could use the money just for Forks and Shock (think the frame is pretty decent), but I don't think I can do this on the scheme - unless I buy a really cheap bike and claim the fork and shock as accessories???

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I could also pick up some Rockshox Revelation 409 dual air - RockShox Suspension Forks for £230, so it is bestfor me to spend £410 on up-grades of £1000 (tax free) so about £600 on new bike? To be honest I think I no the answer (upgrade!).

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supersonicLives Here
Not sure that fork offers anymore than what you already have - but a new shock is a good idea.

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Don't tell me that! I'm getting all excited now - Phoned the Mr's and she has given me the go-ahead!

I guess other than the weight saving (just over 1lb lighter) not too much diff between the Recon coil and a Revelation Air (But it's new and shiny!), the old fork is 3 years old and has a few thousand miles on it - wouldn't it be worth swapping anyway?

Plus I never seem to use the full travel of the fork - I guess the spring rate could be too high, or I'm just a wuss going downhill!

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Recon coil is a decent fork although at 3 years old, probably worth a service and check the spring, how heavy are you? RS standard springs are reputed to be a bit on the light side so it's surprising to hear someone say they're not getting the full travel (more often the opposite)

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It will be that I'm a bit of a girl (no offence to R Atherton or Tracey Mosely!!!) going downhill then - my logic would be if it going to cost £80 to get them serviced a new fork will be costing £150 extra - pease someone tell me it's a great idea.

In the process of trying to order the shok (plus a few more bits!!) from CRC and can't get the paypal code to work (Will save me another £22.80) so pretty soon these forks are going to be free Wink

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Where is your voucher for??

Because you can use the halfords voucher on anything bike related.
So you can get your forks & shock through halfords with the voucher. There's two types though, bike&accesories or just a £1000 voucher.

Just go and speak to your local store.

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As far as the Idrive goes, do you still have the bits you took off? The magic of upgrading is that sooner or later you end up with a bike that contains almost no original parts, and a box of original parts, then you can spend £150 on a frame and build a second bike Wink

The shock... I'd recommend you speak to someone who really knows their suspension on this, because the Idrive's suspension setup means it tends to run really low pressure in the shock. It might be that the Ario's just totally standard- which could explain why it's a wee bit iffy- but equally it might have internal changes to suit the lower-than-typical pressure. I don't think mine's too awful but it's not great.

As for the forks, I found that going up the 10mm to 140mm revelations (over my old 130mm revs) made a big difference to how it rides, it shouldn't really but it seemed to just slack it off to that critical point where it started feeling really happy downhill. With 130mm, I didn't like it so much. So, that could be a consideration too.

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The Ario when tested at WMB tended to spike and stick a bit. Idrive runs about a 1:2.7 shock ratio, so nothing out of the ordianry with pressures, but seems to work best at the standard 25% sag.

I think the Monarch would be a good choice as has the motion control compression adjustment.

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OK pushed the process order button and somehow another £60's of stuff ended up in my basket - don't know how that happened Wink

Anyway - saved £133 (and hopefully will be getting £24 cashback with paypal) so if I add that to the £80 I would have spent for a shock service that's £237 saved, so the fork is going to cost -£7 (I love shopping!!) my wife will be so pleased with me!

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The Ario when tested at WMB tended to spike and stick a bit. Idrive runs about a 1:2.7 shock ratio, so nothing out of the ordianry with pressures, but seems to work best at the standard 25% sag.


Mmm, fair enough, I'm running mine at 70psi which seems pretty low, but maybe I'm not current with the averages out there.

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That does strike me as low, maybe stiction is propping the shock up.

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dsmiff wrote:


It would be nice if I could use the money just for Forks and Shock (think the frame is pretty decent), but I don't think I can do this on the scheme - unless I buy a really cheap bike and claim the fork and shock as accessories???


why not do what the mobile phone folks do on ebay. Get the best bike for the grand and flog it, then with the proceeds, do the upgrade and keep a small nest egg.

Not sure if thats strictly within the rules, but thats for your conscience Wink

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Get a £500 hardtail (or a roadie) on cycle to work, with £500 worth of accessories for the GT.

You get a second bike (it could even be the right size for your miss's) and save money on your upgrades.

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The magic of upgrading is that sooner or later you end up with a bike that contains almost no original parts, and a box of original parts, then you can spend £150 on a frame and build a second bike Wink



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That does strike me as low, maybe stiction is propping the shock up.


Don't think so, it's pretty fluid in motion. I'm running a wee bit more sag than usual but stil. The shock travel:suspension travel ratio is pretty standard but there;s more to it than that, but then the leverage doesn't seem that different from plenty of other frames either.

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Does anybody know the difference between the Rockshox Revelation 409 dual air http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/marzocchi-and-rockshox-suspension-forks/rockshox-suspension-forks/rockshox-revelation-409-dual-air.html

and the 426 Dual Air http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/marzocchi-and-rockshox-suspension-forks/rockshox-suspension-forks/rockshox-revelation-426-dual-air-poploc.html

Are they worth an extra £100 (or a 1/3 more?) than the 409's.

Are they still internally adjustable to 140mm? Also I've had a pair of Reba's off merlin that are leaking from the top of the motion control - seems that merlin have supplied a number of forks with similar issues and it put's me off using them again.

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The top one looks like an older version and maybe be fixed at 130mm.
426 has external floodgate (no big deal) and poploc (no big deal).

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