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Frank the tank
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Location: Hucknall Notts
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 Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:07 pm |
Do you wear one?
I always do, despite the fact that it bears the name of a man who should have been charged with war crimes against his own army.
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shouldbeinbed
Joined: 16 Sep 2009
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:10 pm |
Yes because, hopefully, the money goes to benevolent funds for people far braver than I am.
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holmeboy
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
Posts: 228
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:15 pm |
No
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dmclite
Joined: 14 Dec 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:20 pm |
Why not ?
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holmeboy
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:24 pm |
Never get the oppertunuty to buy, not because of any misplaced belief. honest. I've given to charity many times, but sometimes I do feel I've been ripped off.
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disgruntledgoat
Joined: 23 Jul 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:26 pm |
Always... You and I can speculate about hte rights and wrongs of any given conflict but those brave enough to put themselves in harms way professionally deserve our respect. They don't get to pick and choose their causes, they have to do what they are ordered.
That two minutes always makes me think of my relatives who perished, of some poor boy in a foxhole on the Falklands, of the horror of the Iran-Iraq war (bloodier than WWI), of Stalingrad and of any number of conflicts with nameless victims the workd over. And surely to goodness the act of laying a wreath for millions of young men must make even the hubristic, careerist idiots who govern us think twice.
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dmclite
Joined: 14 Dec 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:27 pm |
| holmeboy wrote: | | Never get the oppertunuty to buy, not because of any misplaced belief. honest. I've given to charity many times, but sometimes I do feel I've been ripped off. |
What, you never go to the shops, for, like, food ?
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holmeboy
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:32 pm |
| dmclite wrote: | | holmeboy wrote: | | Never get the oppertunuty to buy, not because of any misplaced belief. honest. I've given to charity many times, but sometimes I do feel I've been ripped off. |
What, you never go to the shops, for, like, food ? |
I'm at the shops all the time, can't remember seeing any poppies for sale. i'm sure my wife and kids have spent many pounds over the years on Poppies.
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Satans Budgie
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
Posts: 83
Location: The Kingdom
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:35 pm |
Yes, more than one.
But I don't need Remembrance Sunday or the 2 minutes silence to remember the members of my team who did not make the journey home from the first gulf war, I see them every night.
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holmeboy
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:43 pm |
| Satans Budgie wrote: | Yes, more than one.
But I don't need Remembrance Sunday or the 2 minutes silence to remember the members of my team who did not make the journey home from the first gulf war, I see them every night. |
I take my hat off to you and next time I see a poppy for sale, I'll buy it!
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White Line
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
Posts: 434
Location: Castlemilk, Glasgow, Scotland.
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Frank the tank
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 988
Location: Hucknall Notts
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:00 pm |
Obviously there are people on here who have first hand experience of the horrors of war. I, fortunately do not. That doesn't stop me appreciating the valour of the many young men/women that have paid the ultimate price for my freedom post on forums like this.
Whenever I see poor souls being "re-patriated" on a journey through Wooton Bassett I have a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye, they've given it all. Forget your "Sir" Chris Hoys and your Vicky Pendletons, there are no honours for them other than the respect of the great British public.
IMHO, if you don't wear a poppy, shame on you.
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dmclite
Joined: 14 Dec 2008
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johnfinch
Joined: 07 Oct 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:03 pm |
I always buy one because I know that many of the veterans need charitable help, having seen at first hand how little the military/government do for those suffering the consequences of fighting a war.
I also remember the "enemy" soldiers who died, most of them had little choice but to fight, especially those who were conscripted under military dictatorships.
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hells
Joined: 09 Aug 2009
Posts: 24
Location: East London
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:22 pm |
Yes, I have done every year for as long as I can remember.
This year I have three, one for my normal clothes, one for my ambulance service uniform and one for my berret when I march tomorrow.
It has been difficult to find them this year in London, none of the local supermarkets have sold them and I have not seen any street sellers. I had to get mine from a friend who works for RBL.
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thejesusandsedischain
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:26 pm |
lions led by donkeys, i always buy one and its not because of the jingoistic campaigns of the red tops.
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dmclite
Joined: 14 Dec 2008
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:30 pm |
Please wear a poppy. Forget politicians lies, the incompetence of government. Respect the squaddies on the ground, doing the job, it means a lot to soldiers that people wear a poppy.
A small symbol of massive respect and honour.
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Frank the tank
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 988
Location: Hucknall Notts
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:32 pm |
| dmclite wrote: | Please wear a poppy. Forget politicians lies, the incompetence of government. Respect the squaddies on the ground, doing the job, it means a lot to soldiers that people wear a poppy.
A small symbol of massive respect and honour. |
Well said that man.
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pedylan
Joined: 15 Aug 2007
Posts: 538
Location: Yorkshire
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:06 pm |
| Frank the tank wrote: | | dmclite wrote: | Please wear a poppy. Forget politicians lies, the incompetence of government. Respect the squaddies on the ground, doing the job, it means a lot to soldiers that people wear a poppy.
A small symbol of massive respect and honour. |
Well said that man. |
I think he's got previous: directly relevant previous.
There really shouldn't be any debate about displaying respect for people who give their lives in conflicts and in arenas not of their choosing. Whether we should have a military presence in Iraq or Afghanistan might be debateable but that has no relevance in recognising the death and injuries sustained by the forces sent there.
And when we're on the subject the poppy and the Help for Heroes symbols shouldn't be appropriated to demonstrate patriotism by odious chancers.
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pottssteve
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 1256
Location: Hong Kong, PRC
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 11:24 am |
| pedylan wrote: | | Frank the tank wrote: | | dmclite wrote: | Please wear a poppy. Forget politicians lies, the incompetence of government. Respect the squaddies on the ground, doing the job, it means a lot to soldiers that people wear a poppy.
A small symbol of massive respect and honour. |
Well said that man. |
I think he's got previous: directly relevant previous.
There really shouldn't be any debate about displaying respect for people who give their lives in conflicts and in arenas not of their choosing. Whether we should have a military presence in Iraq or Afghanistan might be debateable but that has no relevance in recognising the death and injuries sustained by the forces sent there.
And when we're on the subject the poppy and the Help for Heroes symbols shouldn't be appropriated to demonstrate patriotism by odious chancers. |
Well said, that person. I have to go down to Central HK to get them - I make sure I do every year.
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