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mad4itinnit Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:19 pm |
joined gym and want to strengthen my core muscles and get fitter as winter is here now will rpm session every sunday for a hour help my overal fitness on road bike or doi need to get out in all weather and do the miles any advice on a plan to maximise my gym use would be greatly received cheers
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Garz Joined: 25 May 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Manchestorh
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:35 pm |
It will of course be better than doing nothing, however for improved fitness you have to be doing something at least three times a week from my experience. If you go out as well and hit the gym on off days then you should be fine.
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mad4itinnit Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:44 pm |
iam going to be going every other day to gym and then sunday spinning and in afternoon out on bike if not icy or snow cheers for reply
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Garz Joined: 25 May 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Manchestorh
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Posted Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:46 pm |
Please dont over-train, for example a spinning class once out on the road and a gym session or two is ample. You need rest its just as important, just listen to your body.
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ride_whenever Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 8174 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 12:06 am |
As long as you've got a sensible, output controlled, training program, and you take at least one full 24 hour period off a week and build up to it you can effectively train as much as you like.
No such thing as over-training, just under-preparedness.
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Bhima Joined: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 1448 Location: Manchester
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 12:46 am |
Core work is best done on your bike, simply by riding on the drops a lot, especially sprinting hard, not in the gym, as it's specific to how you want to strengthen the muscles. Getting an indoor trainer would probably be better than spinning classes because, again, it's on your own bike so you'd be training your legs much better.
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oldwelshman Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2415 Location: United Kingdom
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Pokerface Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 1309 Location: UK
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:12 am |
Maybe by core work he meant base work? Base miles/work would be better on a bike as opposed to core work which is better done in a gym. It's hard to do sit ups on a bike 
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mad4itinnit Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:14 am |
i have to agree with oldwelshman done alot of riding in summer 160 miles a week 3 lots of 30 miles and about 60 on sunday and have to say my legs are strong as ox but my belly dont seam to follow suit lol iam tea total and it low fat diet but just cant seam to get toned and read a intresting artical in cycling plus about it oldwelsh any tips for gym work out or would a personal trainer be able to sort it for me
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Garz Joined: 25 May 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Manchestorh
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Ollieda Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Sandhurst and Cheltenham
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 8:23 am |
If you're still relatively new to cycling like me then spinning can be a great way to liven things up. I'm not yet fully confident and fully equipped (only got my jersey and shorts) to be going out when the weather gets nasty over winter so I'll be spending a fair bit of time on the turbo this winter.
Spinning can just keep that variety in there......and if you're lucky, like at my gym, the instructor is super hot!!!
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pottssteve Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 1256 Location: Hong Kong, PRC
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porker33 Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 38
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 11:33 am |
I have taken various forms of spinning classes several times a week for the last 12 years or so...it is can help with cardio, but does not compare to riding a real bike on the road.
Some of it depends which program you use, although I can do it, some of the pure spin with little resistance are of little use to me. I prefer the resistance interval training type of classes, where I wind the bike up to max resistance, you are moving rather than spinning, but this is what I tend to find happens with 25% hills!
Just to say, about 2 months ago I started doing 100 miles a week on a road bike, even by upping my game, the spinning class does seem easier than before.
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oldwelshman Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2415 Location: United Kingdom
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Carl_P Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 189 Location: Norwich
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:53 pm |
I go to the gym four times a week, where I do weights, treadmill, Body Combat and Spin. Even that mix alone won't improve your core strength unless you include specific core training exercises. Most people choose the Swiss Balls for this. Spin will improve cardio fitness and leg strength, but won't do much for core strength.
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Philby Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 28 Location: Bristol
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:32 pm |
Another vote for spin classes particularly during this wet weather and cold dark nights. Many gyms have classes such as Body Pump, Body Conditioning or circuits which can help core stability and strength, and develop areas of your body which cycling tends to neglect - also swimming can help .
Personally I quite like the variety that you can get at a gym, and find it complements my cycling rather than detracting from it.
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cougie Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 11535 Location:
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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:05 pm |
I used to teach 2 or 3 spin classes a week. I was flying on the bike.
Up until 40 miles or so when my lack of endurance showed me up !
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Simon Notley Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 1096 Location: Bracknell
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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:42 pm |
I did an RPM class the other day, just to see what it was like. It was okay, although rather confusing withe the constant changes of cadence, resistance etc. I was slightly unsure when I was supposed to be pushing and how hard... the instructor kept saying 'sprint' when she didn't mean it...
My heart rate covered a pretty wide range during the session, from tempo through to well above my TT level. I'm not sure I really accrued sufficient time at any level to get great benefits, but I'm sure it's a lot better than doing nothing from a training point of view. If it had gone on longer and perhaps stayed at each level for longer, it would have been a great workout, but equally I may have died of heat exhaustion.
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Monty Dog Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 10415 Location: Fleet, UK
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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:06 pm |
IME the quality of Spinning classes vary considerably from instructor to instructor - try a couple. because in my experience some simply aren't hard enough - what's tough for a 'gym bunny' simply ain't tough enough to help when riding. Another factor is that with some spinning bikes, it's very difficult to get a decent position, so the training is a bit of a compromise - I'd still save the really hard 'threshold' efforts for a turbo session where your position is correct. Finally, in terms of 'core' body exercises, you need to do specific exercises e.g. swiss ball, crunches etc - I do inline skating and roller-skiing in winterwhich are great all-over conditioners - a season of inline racing did wonders for my leg and core strength - if you think that cycling's tough on your lumbar region, you wanna try a 4hr plus inline skate marathon!
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Escargot Joined: 04 May 2009 Posts: 294
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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:29 pm |
But isn't that why spinning bikes have gears ? i.e. so you can make it as hard/easy as you like
You don't have to follow the gym bunnies 
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