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Philip Whiteman Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 210
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 5:35 pm |
| Horta wrote: | I wondered how long the audax/sportive argument would take to rear it's head in this post, well done wooli and brown, first and second post!
Why do we have to slag each others paticular cycling perversion off? It's like crap programmes on telly, if you don't like 'em, don't watch 'em!!!
Me? I ride road, track, mtb. Have raced, toured, commuted, been a courier, hell I've even ridden around Australia. Am now into mtb enduro and sportives, haven't done an audax yet. But I must admit I get put off by all the reactionary ol' curmudgeons who slag off sportives every chance they get. Is it because they don't like all these Jonny come latelys, muscling in on "their" pastime and not having the good grace to follow in their wheeltracks?
Just ride your bike
Rant over...... and breathe.
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Well said. I ride audaxes and sportives. There are excellent and crap events in both fields as with most things in life.
To be honest the only difference occurs where blinded people sit in their little closetted territory condemning the other camp - often with very little evidence and out of total ignorance. It is all fundamental tribalism.
As you wisely point out, 'just ride the bike' - in what ever form.
Dates to watch out for.
SNOWDROP AND SUNRISE EXPRESS 123km - Worcestershire. 6th February 2010.
COTSWOLD EXPEDITION. 200, 160 & 100 km. 29th June 2010.
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Bill D Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 30
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 7:28 pm |
I could definitely recommend fixing a route sheet holder to your handlebars, to avoid having to stop & check the route all the time. You could easioly make one out of something flat like a bit of thin plywood or plastic and fix it to the stem/bars with a couple of cable ties. If you put it next to your bike computer you can easily check the mileages for the turns.
Hope you enjoy it: weather forecast isn't great but I suppose it's what we have to expect at this time of year. Let us all know how you get on.
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Tonymufc Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 246 Location: North Manchester
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zoomcp Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 958 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 9:11 am |
| ugo.santalucia wrote: | Audaxes are better in autumn/winter, whilst sportives are better in spring/summer to go full speed. Having to constantly check a route card slows you down, inevitably.
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get a GPS the money you save by not entering spotives will buy one over the course of a year.
once you've got it set up it takes about 20 mins to convert the average Audax route sheet to a route (there is usually only one shortest route between controls which will be the same as the route sheet) you then get guided around the route with proper SatNav type beepy instructions all the way round; it can also tell you when controls and infos are coming up.
Many events have the GPX file available to download off the calendar page too; or else have been put up by riders on bikely; which can be downloaded
I did a 200 Audax yesterday; all by GPS; it was a joy! (although I had the printed route in my back pocket in case it went wrong!)
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Philip Whiteman Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 210
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brownleather Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 107
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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:38 am |
| Horta wrote: | I wondered how long the audax/sportive argument would take to rear it's head in this post, well done wooli and brown, first and second post!
Why do we have to slag each others paticular cycling perversion off? It's like crap programmes on telly, if you don't like 'em, don't watch 'em!!!
Me? I ride road, track, mtb. Have raced, toured, commuted, been a courier, hell I've even ridden around Australia. Am now into mtb enduro and sportives, haven't done an audax yet. But I must admit I get put off by all the reactionary ol' curmudgeons who slag off sportives every chance they get. Is it because they don't like all these Jonny come latelys, muscling in on "their" pastime and not having the good grace to follow in their wheeltracks?
Just ride your bike
Rant over...... and breathe.
Ciao amigos |
I'm all for all types of cycling. I do TTing, MTBing, commuting, Ride with a Racing Club, I even Ride with the pensioners from the CTC when I want an easy ride, I don't do all that many Audaxes, but I don't need a "route" to go out and enjoy cycling.
Sportives just seem to go out of their way to make a stupidly hilly route, living in Wales I could do a stupidly hilly route every day of the week and it wouldn't cost me £0.
I also don't get the Sportive culture.....questions like "I need some light wheels for sportives, what do I get?" Seem silly, any old wheels for Sportives will do.......if you want nice kit you don't need to justify it by "needing it sportives".
Paris-Roubaix, Flanders, and the Etape, now they are what it's about.
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Tonymufc Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 246 Location: North Manchester
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Philip Whiteman Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 210
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Posted Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:09 pm |
| Tonymufc wrote: | | . The pace wasn't exactly electric.... |
but sometimes they can be....
Glad you enjoyed it.
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Dates to watch out for.
SNOWDROP AND SUNRISE EXPRESS 123km - Worcestershire. 6th February 2010.
COTSWOLD EXPEDITION. 200, 160 & 100 km. 29th June 2010.
http://www.beaconrcc.org.uk/audax/cotswold/index.html |
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fcum Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:37 pm |
| Tonymufc wrote: | Well, I completed my first Audax and I must say that I really enjoyed it. The pace wasn't exactly electric, but then I don't think it's meant to be. The ride was made a bit easier as one of our group had a garmin. There were the sterotypical beards and sandals, but also quite a few youngish (like myself) riders taking part. With a nice warm brew at the start and tea and soup at the finish ( all free ) it made for a good days ride. I rode to the start and rode home so my culmative milage was 120 miles. Not a bad days work. Bring on the next one.  |
did not see your bike - to have that chat about glazer
did notice there was another blue aeron so that could have been confusing
found pace ok on way out to eureka. Group of about 20 though it started whittling down towards the cafe stop
on way back joined a few of the fast 200 and had abbotsford park road club go past which resulted in some unexpected interval training for the last half hour
good days ride
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Tonymufc Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 246 Location: North Manchester
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Posted Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:41 pm |
We set off towards the back of the group so if you were towards the front then you would of missed me. Eureka. The only cafe I've been in that took 20 minutes to make me bacon and tomato on toast. My mate had beans on toast. 1 slice of toast and about 20 beans. A bit underwhelmed would be an understatement. What time did you get to the cafe. We pulled up at 12.00 with aload of Manchester wheelers.
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redddraggon Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 8123 Location: North Wales
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Posted Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:50 pm |
I was in the Eureka on Sunday too.
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fcum Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:24 am |
| Tonymufc wrote: | | We set off towards the back of the group so if you were towards the front then you would of missed me. Eureka. The only cafe I've been in that took 20 minutes to make me bacon and tomato on toast. My mate had beans on toast. 1 slice of toast and about 20 beans. A bit underwhelmed would be an understatement. What time did you get to the cafe. We pulled up at 12.00 with aload of Manchester wheelers. |
got to eureka about 11.30
half hour in there and back to cheadle for abot 3.50 - bite to eat at budworth cos portion size of beans on toast at eureka meant was stll hungry!
plan to ride the 120 sunday before xmas - and the hopey 100 so any excess from xmas gets flushed out!
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Tonymufc Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 246 Location: North Manchester
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Posted Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:02 pm |
Someone needs to complain about the portion size of the beans on toast cos that was poor mate. I had envious looks once my bacon and tomato on toast was placed in front of me. Mmmmmmmmmm, bacon ( said in the style of Homer J Simpson ).
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