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DaSy
I'm trying to understand when it becomes racist to refer to another persons race, in the terms that racist is being used in this thread.

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alfablue
DaSy wrote:
Alfablue - do we know whether Indians are offended by being referred to as Indian then?
I don't know - I was merely trying to explain why some words that relate to ethnicity may be considered to be more of a racial slur than others. Just theorising, not attempting to write the rule book.

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teagar
DaSy wrote:
I'm trying to understand when it becomes racist to refer to another persons race, in the terms that racist is being used in this thread.


In absolute terms it is, but socially it's fine to do so.


It's the context and the way the term was used in the OP which caused all the faff.

Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
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DaSy wrote:
I'm trying to understand when it becomes racist to refer to another persons race, in the terms that racist is being used in this thread.
I am reluctant to put my head above the parapet again, but I would suggest that it is when the person's race is described when it can have no logical relevance to the issue - on this thread the implication is that the person's race, ethnicity or nationality is somehow an explanation for the behaviour upon which the OP commented. So stating "person A behaved badly (they were of race B)" connects the bad behaviour with race (and is using racial stereotyping) - I can see why that causes offence.

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It is acceptable (apparently) to call someone of the Scottish persuasion a Jock however use the Pa** word to describe someone from Pakistan and hugely racist. Before you all start I am in agreement that the use of the word is not correct but just trying to make my point. So, who makes up the rules as to what is racist and what is not. ie why, other than the fact that I am, do I constantly get you Jock bast***...?


Dunno. And Ive got a degree. Razz

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Last post was tongue firmly in cheek.

+1 alfablue.

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Chip \'oyler
Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
It's amazing how people can be victimized, bullied and discriminated against all their lifes because they're fat, ginger have glasses etc... but thats ok and liberally accepted throughout society ( after all its only a laugh insn't it ) . Yet the moment you change the the word fat for indian ( for example) all hell breaks lose. Rolling Eyes

And please don't try to tell me that these people don't get discriminated against as much as in the racial context because they do.


Oh and for the record having a degree in something doesn't always make yo an expert Rolling Eyes


I know a speccy, fat lad with a big mop of ginger hair. He gets some right stick

He's scottish BTW

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Chip \'oyler wrote:
Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
It's amazing how people can be victimized, bullied and discriminated against all their lifes because they're fat, ginger have glasses etc... but thats ok and liberally accepted throughout society ( after all its only a laugh insn't it ) . Yet the moment you change the the word fat for indian ( for example) all hell breaks lose. Rolling Eyes

And please don't try to tell me that these people don't get discriminated against as much as in the racial context because they do.


Oh and for the record having a degree in something doesn't always make yo an expert Rolling Eyes


I know a speccy, fat lad with a big mop of ginger hair. He gets some right stick

He's scottish BTW


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teagar wrote:
Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:



Oh and for the record having a degree in something doesn't always make yo an expert Rolling Eyes


Fair enough.

It's all relative.


But its true. I have a degree in Nursing. I wouldn't even begin to say that I was an expert on it at all.

Oh and as far as I'm aware I'm not related to you. Unless your dads a milkman with big ears and glasses Wink

Oh I notice you fail to mention the rest of my post in relation to the racism issue. Twisted Evil

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John C.
The first time I had a crash, the first person on the seen was an Aussie on holiday ( a doctor BTW). Now I don't have a degree, but that was how I have always told the story. Does this make me a racist ?

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Chip \'oyler
No - but what has him being a doctor got to do with it?

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according to these pages it does.

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Chip \'oyler wrote:
No - but what has him being a doctor got to do with it?

It's the only accident I've had where:
The first person on the seen was an Aussie holiday maker who happened to be a doctor and atayed with me untill the ambulance arrived, from the ambulance station where the nurse had just pulled out of in her car that I ran into, My witness was a motorcycle cop Laughing Honest I'm not making it up

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God, kind o=f reminds me of that Fawlty towers episode 'don't mention the war'. I think if such a fuss wasn't made in the first place there would be no issue, seems guardian readers are more offended than the ones they think are victims IMO Wink

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John C. wrote:
Chip \'oyler wrote:
No - but what has him being a doctor got to do with it?

It's the only accident I've had where:
The first person on the seen was an Aussie holiday maker who happened to be a doctor and atayed with me untill the ambulance arrived, from the ambulance station where the nurse had just pulled out of in her car that I ran into, My witness was a motorcycle cop Laughing Honest I'm not making it up




AND WHATS BEING AUSSIE GOT TO DO WITH IT?!?!?!????

QUICK LYNCH HIM Rolling Eyes Wink Rolling Eyes



Edit, bit slow on the ol' uptake there Laughing Arrow

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STREWTH, MATE. Rolling Eyes

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STEFANOS4784 wrote:
John C. wrote:
Chip \'oyler wrote:
No - but what has him being a doctor got to do with it?

It's the only accident I've had where:
The first person on the seen was an Aussie holiday maker who happened to be a doctor and atayed with me untill the ambulance arrived, from the ambulance station where the nurse had just pulled out of in her car that I ran into, My witness was a motorcycle cop Laughing Honest I'm not making it up




AND WHATS BEING AUSSIE GOT TO DO WITH IT?!?!?!????

QUICK LYNCH HIM Rolling Eyes Wink Rolling Eyes



Edit, bit slow on the ol' uptake there Laughing Arrow


It meant I could understand him ! if it had been a Brummie ......................

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