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heathrow86
Hi has anyone had there bike serviced at Evans, On Your Bike etc? Are they any good and what do you get for £80+? Thinking of doing it as I no longer have the time or tools to do it.

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Slow Downcp
I wouldn't pay £80 for something I could do in two hours myself. I guess the £80 is labour only to adjust/replace cables, grease bearing and adjust gears and brakes - any parts needed (chain, cassette, brake blocks, cables) will be on top of that.

Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
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Bill D
I agree. I'd buy myself a maintenance manual and a multitool, do the work myself, save money and know it's done properly. If you can operate a spanner and a screwdriver you're there. Very Happy

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Scrumple
My LBS did my bike at the beginning of the year for £20 summat.

Granted, it didn't need much work - and was more a peace of mind checkover.

Most places wanted loads more as a standard charge. Keep trying places, and negotiate.

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Slow Downcp
Breakdown of what's covered by Evans, and additional charges:

http://www.evanscycles.com/servicing/workshop-price-list

£12.50 for fitting a tyre!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
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Geoff_SS
Slow Downcp wrote:
Breakdown of what's covered by Evans, and additional charges:

http://www.evanscycles.com/servicing/workshop-price-list

£12.50 for fitting a tyre!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked


Shock is right! I didn't realise how valuable my meagre skills are.

Do they really believe it's necessary to strip completely a every 12 to 18 months? And what is the reason for stripping and re-fitting a headset? You don't need to strip it to know if it needs replacing. And as for charging £25 to repair a puncture in hub gear rear wheel - words fail me.

I've been an amateur mechanic all my life - motor cycles, cars, sailing boats, model boats and aeroplanes and pedal cycles. Maintenance on pedal cycles isn't exactly super difficult. The only thing I've never done myself is build a frame or occasionally needed help when I don't have a special tool. I think if I'd paid myself I'd be a much richer man Laughing

No wonder there are complaints that cycling is expensive. It must be if you can't/won't do your own repairs.

Geoff

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hodsgod
Slow Downcp wrote:
Breakdown of what's covered by Evans, and additional charges:

http://www.evanscycles.com/servicing/workshop-price-list

£12.50 for fitting a tyre!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked


I'll do it for £10 Laughing

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Mothyman
..i think I'll cycle over to Geoff SS when i need a service...he sounds handier than me..I have no mechanical skills at all but am planning to slowly improve my bike DIY on a cheaper bike off ebay - before letting loose on my Spech Roubaix Comp..

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frinkmakesyouthink
Yeah, practice is what you need. Like Geoff I've never liked paying someone to do something I can do myself, and I've always owned classic cars ('65 Morris Minor was my first car - it was already 40 years old when I got it when I was seventeen) so I've become pretty adept at fixing things (like new driveshafts overnight at the side of the road because I refused to pay £300 to get it towed away, entirely reasonable I think Very Happy ).

If you want to learn how to service your bike, buy an old bike for £50, and a copy of the Haynes Bike Book, buy a few tools and take it apart and put it back together again. There might be a few differences between a £1200 carbon fibre racer and a crummy old ebay special but most of the theory is the same, and it's good practice too.

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night_porter
What an outrage!

How can cycle mechanics and shops expect hardworking people to pay thousands of pounds on buying their bikes/parts and still want their wages to be paid when we let them work on our bikes?

I have never heard anything more ridiculous, the cheek of these people.

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ChrisInBicester
night_porter wrote:
What an outrage!

How can cycle mechanics and shops expect hardworking people to pay thousands of pounds on buying their bikes/parts and still want their wages to be paid when we let them work on our bikes?

I have never heard anything more ridiculous, the cheek of these people.

You have a point, which I fully agree with. Staff expect to be paid min wage at least and the overheads of running a business are sky high these days, but... If you pay Evans or anyone else this sort of money for basic jobs, you'd expect the work to be gold-plate standard. When I picked up my new bike from them last week I was stunned at the lack of care that had gone into setting it up - it gave all the appearance of having been whipped out of the box, a few cursory checks done and that was it. If they charge top dollar, they have to provide top service. In my experience (this and others), they don't.

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Pross
I'm mechanically useless but still manage pretty much everything myself. I don't have STI gears yet so don't know what that will be like and I don't touch wheels, bottom brackets and (proper old fashioned) headsets as I don't have the tools. Spent just over an hour on Saturday replacing my whole drive train and the only problem I had was that my chainring bolts have seized after 10 years plus of neglect in the shed. There's not much in routine maintenance that's complicated but then the OP didn't say he couldn't do it himself just that he doesn't have the time or tools anymore.

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Slow Downcp
night_porter wrote:
What an outrage!

How can cycle mechanics and shops expect hardworking people to pay thousands of pounds on buying their bikes/parts and still want their wages to be paid when we let them work on our bikes?

I have never heard anything more ridiculous, the cheek of these people.


I agree to a point - but £12.50 for swapping a tyre???

Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
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Top_Bhoy
Slow Downcp wrote:
night_porter wrote:
What an outrage!

How can cycle mechanics and shops expect hardworking people to pay thousands of pounds on buying their bikes/parts and still want their wages to be paid when we let them work on our bikes?

I have never heard anything more ridiculous, the cheek of these people.


I agree to a point - but £12.50 for swapping a tyre???


Worse than that - for what is literally no more than a 2 minute job, its £12.50 for fitting a bottle cage (excluding part). Embarassed

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Pross
Presumably it's £25 per hour with a minimum half hour charge. Let's face it, anyone who can't be bothered to fit a bottle cage themselves deserves to be ripped off Wink

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Rich Hcp
Easy.

If you don't want to do it yourself, talk to your Local Shop, pop in if you can.

You'll save loads on the service because they'll do what needs to be done, rather than whats on a list

Richard

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Escargot
I agree to a point. Evans is expensive but in the same vein as taking your car to a main dealer. They have massive overheads so have to rip you off to some extent.

However, how much do you guys get paid an hour ? My LBS charges about £80 for a full service which is a full strip, lube and reassemble etc. I could easily do that myself but I couldn't do it in less than 2-3 hours, which would cost me more in my free time (and I'm mechanically minded).

For someone who isn't mechanical in any way, stripping down a rear mech, BB or headset and relubricating could take a fair amount of time so equates to the same thing. Ok bike mechanics ain't rocket science but even learning the stuff takes time.

There was an article on Watchdog where the idiot journo on the BikeRadar website was slamming £100 bikes because they were unsafe. The shocking thing was that a bunch of guys tried to assemble a range of bikes and some of them couldn't even tighten a pedal onto a crank Rolling Eyes For these kinds of people, servicing is a no-brainer as you can imagine the kind of trouble they'd get into stripping down a BB Laughing

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Rich Hcp
I agree, I wanted to write that, but you found the words

You can do a lot of damage and mess things up if you are not sure what you're doing, and then have to take it some where to get it fixed, which pushes the costs higher than geting a bike mech to do the original job

To me, I'd rather go to a decent shop and sort it.

Not everyone has the know how, confidence and time to mechanic their own bike. (I fall in to the time/confidence bracket)

That Evans scheme is fine, but I'd rather support small business.

Richard

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Top_Bhoy
I see no issue with people paying £80 for a service.....but by charging £12.50 for fitting bottle cages, on principle alone, I'd go elsewhere if I needed to use a shop service. This type of charge screams greed...

Do Evans (and other shops) give you the option of supplying your own parts or are you stuck with forking out for their high rrps?

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Escargot
Agree, that's pretty scandalous for two bolts.

But even more shocking is that people must be paying it otherwise they'd revamp their pricing Shocked

Sadly though it's up there with main dealer car service charges. I've heard outrageous stories of BMW/Audi/Merc prices

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