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feltkuota
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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 Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 3:54 pm |
I'd agree with most of your post apart from the fact that he fires his bike up at 8 in the morning. Is it the fact that he does so and goes inside the annoyance or just the fact that he lets his bike warm?
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sampras38
Joined: 05 Feb 2009
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Location: West London
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 4:16 pm |
| Porgy wrote: | | sampras38 wrote: | And the unfortunate thing is, if you moan and he gets reported, or even visited from the coucil or some other authority, he'll know it was you, so there's a possibility you'll have a future of tension and atmosphere, every time you see him...or worse.
I hate this country sometimes... |
I don't know why you think it's anything to do wth this country. My friend who lives in Spain had an empty lot next to him when he moved in - and a guy has bought it and built a commercial garage on the plot - which is illegal as it only had planning permission for a house - but on paper he lives there so legally it is just a "house".
My friend has gone through every legal route to get the guy out - the workshop is one thin wall away from his bedroom, study and living room. But thanks to the fact that the guy is particularly intimidating and is very well connected in the town - the law has compeltely failed.
I think if a tw@t moves into your neighbourhood - it doesn't matter what country youi live in - it's never good, or easy to get redress. In the US they might just come round and shoot you. |
Sorry, I appreciate it probably goes on all over the place, but I've only lived here so can only go on my personal experience. Saying that I've had no problems with my neighbours so far..
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Porgy
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 4:18 pm |
| gabriel959 wrote: | | Porgy wrote: | | sampras38 wrote: | And the unfortunate thing is, if you moan and he gets reported, or even visited from the coucil or some other authority, he'll know it was you, so there's a possibility you'll have a future of tension and atmosphere, every time you see him...or worse.
I hate this country sometimes... |
I don't know why you think it's anything to do wth this country. My friend who lives in Spain had an empty lot next to him when he moved in - and a guy has bought it and built a commercial garage on the plot - which is illegal as it only had planning permission for a house - but on paper he lives there so legally it is just a "house".
My friend has gone through every legal route to get the guy out - the workshop is one thin wall away from his bedroom, study and living room. But thanks to the fact that the guy is particularly intimidating and is very well connected in the town - the law has compeltely failed.
I think if a tw@t moves into your neighbourhood - it doesn't matter what country youi live in - it's never good, or easy to get redress. In the US they might just come round and shoot you. |
Where does your friend live in Spain? Does he speak Spanish? |
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BigJimmyB
Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 4:44 pm |
| feltkuota wrote: | | I'd agree with most of your post apart from the fact that he fires his bike up at 8 in the morning. Is it the fact that he does so and goes inside the annoyance or just the fact that he lets his bike warm? |
My issue is the fact that this thing is loud and he leaves it running for 5-10 mins. It can wake us up from 100 yards away.
We're expecting twins in the NY, so we'll likely be awake anyway, but he'll probbaly find a way of waking them up when they ARE asleep.....
The whole leaving the bike running thing is completely uneccessary (he could ride it sedately for a mile or so to warm it up, before he gets out onto the major roads we have within a few minutes reach). It also wastes fuel and basically shows contempt for his neighbours and their right to some peace. In exactly the same way as his attitude to me with the fireworks.
Common sense dictates that MOST people would want to have a lie-in at the weekend, or leastsome consideration ffrom their neighbours.
He's only lived there a year, when they arrived there was an assortment of vans, pickups etc all over the shop while they had alterations done, and generally not giving a to$$ who was inconvienced by it (although I appreciate thesethings are necessaryand the noise/mess is a by-product - you can't blame him for wanting a decent home).
I think the lesson here is that he doesn't give a f*** about anyone else, as long as he's OK. Pretty symptomatic of the way society is going TBH....
If I do make an offical complaint, I don't care if he DOES know it's me, in fact I'd be glad if he did. If he want to take issue, I'll gladly have a chat with him to express my (not unreasonable) point of view.
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feltkuota
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 4:51 pm |
Big Jimmy,
I would agree that 5-10mins is taking the pi** but have you ever asked if he refrain from turning his bike over for that length of time? Nothing you can do about the time in the morning 8 is not early.
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verylonglegs
Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 5:23 pm |
Tales like this always remind me of a Spike Milligan quote...'There are two things you can do without in life, neighbours and piles.'
Sadly what you have experienced is all too common lately, its a me first culture we have now.
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Gotte
Joined: 23 Jan 2007
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Nuggs
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 7:39 pm |
| ShockedSoShocked wrote: | | Nuggs wrote: | You have my sympathy.
We have an inconsiderate git living behind us, who enjoys having huge stinky bonfires just about every weekend (including in the SUMMER with lots of lovely smoky green wood - usually when we're sitting down to enjoy a BBQ).
Report your neighbour to the council. If the motorbike noise is a regular occurrence, they may also be able to do something about that as well. |
Our next door neighbour enjoys lighting up one of them "fire chimney" pot things in his garden every time we put the washing out.
I think my mam will beat him to death in the near future. |
Oh yeah, that old chestnut. Bloke opposite has also ruined our washing with his bonfire. Another classic is waiting until I've washed the car and then bringing ash raining down upon it.
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pedylan
Joined: 15 Aug 2007
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Location: Yorkshire
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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 8:17 pm |
I agree : the reaction of your neighbour suggested a complete lack of consideration, as does his general behaviour.
But is some of the problem that you've never spoken to him without their being some tension? If you'd had a few normal polite conversations you may not have had the abrupt couldn't give a stuff reaction. Have you talked to him about the bike?
The thread seems to support the general state of animosity between neighbours. By way way of balance I offer the following. We had building work done this year, I talked to neighbours, warned them and described what was to happen. All this was based on what my builder told me. At the scaffolding stage he built a two storey platform along the gable wall of our barn and supported it with three scaff poles erected over our stone wall and on the neighbour's patio.
First they knew was when they came home from work; first I knew was when they came round to see me (gulp) However, after a site meet with all concerned and establishment of ground rules, the poles stayed put and work got finished and I owe them a big favour and a very nice liquid xmas present.
So it's not all dog eat dog out there folks.
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BigJimmyB
Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2009 11:06 pm |
| pedylan wrote: | I agree : the reaction of your neighbour suggested a complete lack of consideration, as does his general behaviour.
But is some of the problem that you've never spoken to him without their being some tension? If you'd had a few normal polite conversations you may not have had the abrupt couldn't give a stuff reaction. Have you talked to him about the bike?
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Sorry mate, but please don't suggest the problem is mine. To clear things up (and perhaps I should have mentioned this earlier) I'm as polite and considerate with as many of my neighbours as poss, as I am in many aspects of my life (too bl00dy polite sometimes). A few of us exchange favours whenever we can and the few either side of me all get on, to the point of joining each others BBQ's etc.
This bloke lives 100+ yeard across the green, so I've never really even seen him as our paths haven't crossed, but he's made his presence in the street very well known.
I wasn't aggressive, didn't swear and the bloke practically laughed in my face, so I think that tells you more about him than me.....and I'm NOT interested in his frigging bike, especially at 8am on a Sunday, which I DO think is too early. If he started it, got on and rode off, I'd have no issue.
All he had to do over the fireworks was apologise and say he'd be more careful and I would have left feeling happier, but he made me feel I was in the wrong, which is plainly a load of bollo.
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cougie
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:38 am |
I'd probably try and ignore the bonfire thing - its once a year ?
But maybe the environmental health would be interested in his overloud motorbike ? It shouldnt make that much noise ticking over ?
Plus he wouldnt know who had reported him. He will if you go to task over the fireworks thing though ?
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Nuggs
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:12 pm |
While your attitude is admirable (have you considered a career in the UN/hostage negotiation?), I'm not sure it applies here.
Big JimmyB's neighbour is behaving like a weapons grade bell end and so makes an unlikely candidate for becoming his new best friend.
However, I do agree that BJB should go and errect some scaffolding in his neighbour's garden (that was the point of the post, wasn't it?).
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pepelepew
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
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Location: Sunny South Wales
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:37 pm |
I think you've done all you can. You spoke to him reasonably and he reacted like an arrogant tool. The bloke sounds like a bell end and is best avoided. (Says he who uses his motorbike to go to work at 6 a.m. on earlies. Oops! I do get on and go in my defence).
You won't get anywhere with the noise unless he's doing it intentionally or his can is illegal. Has anyone else complained? 8 o'clock is not unreasonable to start a bike.
It sounds like he's getting to you. I know it's easy to say, but it's not worth it. I hate people taking liberties. However, without sounding dramatic, we've just had a murder on our patch that was neighbour related.
It was a dispute over...wait for it...parking.
Parking!
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BigJimmyB
Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:17 pm |
| pepelepew wrote: | It was a dispute over...wait for it...parking.
Parking! |
Blimey.
Well, things haven't and certainly won't go that far!
Guy Fawkes night is finally over I hope (it's run from Thu-Sun so far - see what tonight brings), so another year before we see what he does with his fireworks.
As for the bike, I can live with it. I just used it to illustrate my point.
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Pross
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:27 pm |
We'd been keeping our daughter's baby rabbits in for the last few evenings. Finally put them out about 9.00pm last night thinking we were safe as there hadn't been any fireworks all night. 10 minutes later the chav family a few doors away started letting off fireworks. Now, our gardens are about 5m x 5m but they were plainly using the fireworks that are supposed to have everyone back 25 or 50m and there's a busy road running right behind the fence. I love fireworks and like going to our friends who have a lot of land to set them off but this was ridiculous, the walls were shaking and several rocket carcasses landed on our roof. Quickly got the rabbits back inside where it was slightly quieter by which time they were shaking like mad. Some people seem to think they live in the middle of nowhere and don't take into account those who have to share their environment - what does it take to think "would I be happy if my neighbours were doing this?"
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drewfromrisca
Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:27 pm |
. In the US they might just come round and shoot you.[/quote]
What? This only happens in the US?! Bit prejudice isn't it?
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pedylan
Joined: 15 Aug 2007
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pedylan
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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 8:47 pm |
| Nuggs wrote: |
While your attitude is admirable (have you considered a career in the UN/hostage negotiation?), I'm not sure it applies here.
Big JimmyB's neighbour is behaving like a weapons grade bell end and so makes an unlikely candidate for becoming his new best friend.
However, I do agree that BJB should go and errect some scaffolding in his neighbour's garden (that was the point of the post, wasn't it?). |
Er, no, that would be ridiculous wouldn't it? I just thought this thread was beginning to eat itself with comments about how sh*t everyone was and how many cr*p neighbours there were. Seemed to culminate in a justification for believing the whole country was lamentable. Just an observation that not everyone is an "I'm alright Jack" type.
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BigJimmyB
Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:01 am |
| pedylan wrote: |
I didn't mean to suggest you were part of the problem, I just wondered what the background was and whether you'd had any day to day type exchanges. Now you've filled that in, I'd say that my opening comment is sufficient. The guy sees himself and his as the centre of his universe and his effect on others doesn't register. In answer to your originall question, no, you're not. That leaves you with official intervention - local authority environmental staff on the noise nuisance for example. |
I guess I'll just have to see how next year goes.
I wouldn't really suggest society as a whole is bad, but I have noticed increasing levels of 'FU, I'll do what I want and to hell with whoever doesn't like it...."
The comment "How would I feel if my neighbours did this" is a question this bloke obviously never asks of himself - ho hum....
| pedylan wrote: |
BTW, good luck with the twins; when ours were born a colleague with twins told us to prepare for 3 wasted years. He wasn't quite right and the subsequent 17 have been great.  |
Thanks, I'd never call the years wasted - just hard work!. No doubt I'll publlsh the details when they arrive. We know we're in for a slog. Me & Mrs BJB have already had a heart-to-heart over the fact that 2hrs + MTB'ing each Sunday may well go out of the window. I'm considering selling up and concentrating on road riding....
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Nuggs
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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Posted Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:27 pm |
| BigJimmyB wrote: | | concentrating on road riding.... |
Well there's the silver lining
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