War on Britain's Roads

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby Cat With No Tail » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:14 am

cooldad wrote:That wouldn't have happened if the horse had been wearing a seatbelt. Safety first kids.


I heard they cause more injuries than they prevent.

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby Jolly Swagman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:25 am

Source?

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby cooldad » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:00 am

Jolly Swagman wrote:Source?

The internet.
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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby Jolly Swagman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:21 am

cooldad wrote:
Jolly Swagman wrote:Source?

The internet.


I'll download it now and have a look.

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby Billyjigs » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:20 am

I don't think this documentary informed the debate positively. Lots of sensationalism, and actually very little content for an hour long show.

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby craigw99 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 16:09 pm

yeh they just showed bad driving then bad cycling and went isnt this bad see look they are each as bad as each other
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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby The Rookie » Wed Dec 12, 2012 16:24 pm

Obviously there was no information or attempt to move the arguments forward - it was a TV show!

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby agg25 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 22:25 pm

I commute about 20 miles a day through London and film every ride as well. Have been for about a year as part of a worldwide air pollution study. I would keep filming now though even when it stops. If not for an insurance policy for if a stupid driver/pedestrian causes an accident, for highlighting moronic users of the road, including cyclists.
I've been annotating every file name with what happened and when it happened so I can (when I have time) put it all together into a lowlight reel compilation of all my incidents.
Just last week I had a fool run straight off the footpath out of London Bridge station onto the road and straight into me, despite me wearing high viz, lights and having just sounded my 120 db air horn. I smashed straight into him, luckily didn't fall off and then he just took off down the road. Sometimes I wish I were a bus. I often have cars pull out in front of me, cut me off, pedestrians step off the curb without even looking, cross the road between stopped cars without looking...if I didn't love cycling so much (and hate using expensive, unreliable public transport) I'd have packed it in.
In all my years riding through London I think I've seen more cyclists pulled over than cars by the cops. I think a fair share of the blame should be directed at traffic cops for not doing anything to actively improve road safety other than look at video monitors in their offices and mail out fines. I see several cars each day go through red lights, yet have never seen any of them pull over by a cop. I'd also be happy if they were to pull over more bikes going through red lights. I've been in run ins with quite a few motorists because by the way some of them drive they threaten my life and it's worth me fighting for it. In no other part of my day does anyone directly threaten my life, but if they did do you think it's ok to just brush it off with a friendly wave and forget about it? Maybe some people's lives are important to them.
If the cops aren't going to highlight drivers mistakes then I can't blame some of the guys on the show for doing their jobs for them. I've asked the police if there's anywhere I can submit my footage of bad drivers for them to investigate. They didn't want to know about it. Too much like hard work I guess...and there's video screens to watch.

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby bennett_346 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 18:53 pm

agg25 wrote:I commute about 20 miles a day through London and film every ride as well. Have been for about a year as part of a worldwide air pollution study. I would keep filming now though even when it stops. If not for an insurance policy for if a stupid driver/pedestrian causes an accident, for highlighting moronic users of the road, including cyclists.
I've been annotating every file name with what happened and when it happened so I can (when I have time) put it all together into a lowlight reel compilation of all my incidents.
Just last week I had a fool run straight off the footpath out of London Bridge station onto the road and straight into me, despite me wearing high viz, lights and having just sounded my 120 db air horn. I smashed straight into him, luckily didn't fall off and then he just took off down the road. Sometimes I wish I were a bus. I often have cars pull out in front of me, cut me off, pedestrians step off the curb without even looking, cross the road between stopped cars without looking...if I didn't love cycling so much (and hate using expensive, unreliable public transport) I'd have packed it in.
In all my years riding through London I think I've seen more cyclists pulled over than cars by the cops. I think a fair share of the blame should be directed at traffic cops for not doing anything to actively improve road safety other than look at video monitors in their offices and mail out fines. I see several cars each day go through red lights, yet have never seen any of them pull over by a cop. I'd also be happy if they were to pull over more bikes going through red lights. I've been in run ins with quite a few motorists because by the way some of them drive they threaten my life and it's worth me fighting for it. In no other part of my day does anyone directly threaten my life, but if they did do you think it's ok to just brush it off with a friendly wave and forget about it? Maybe some people's lives are important to them.
If the cops aren't going to highlight drivers mistakes then I can't blame some of the guys on the show for doing their jobs for them. I've asked the police if there's anywhere I can submit my footage of bad drivers for them to investigate. They didn't want to know about it. Too much like hard work I guess...and there's video screens to watch.

TL;DR

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby Jolly Swagman » Thu Dec 13, 2012 21:07 pm

bennett_346 wrote:TL;DR


TLDR :D

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Re: War on Britain's Roads

Postby scoobywingrove » Thu Dec 13, 2012 22:00 pm

I beleave its 50/50 blame for the war on all britains roads..& roadbikers are at more risk on the roads putting themselves amongst the traffic (some idiot drivers) than mtb'ers on off roadtracks as mtb'ers are singled out (no traffic(idiot drivers) amongst them..war on britains roads wil never get better just worse!!


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