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Postby superspunk » Wed May 23, 2007 10:28 am

Just wanna share my appreciation to the legend that is lance armstrong. After being dosed with cancer he still managed to win the tour de france 7 times in a row. Truely extrodinary!

He's not a mountain biker but who gives a toss, he's a hero and so let us know what you think...

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Postby me » Wed May 23, 2007 10:35 am

i admire what he has achieved, but i find it suspicious that his B sample drugs tests often went missing!?!?

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Postby Alex » Wed May 23, 2007 10:37 am

Armstrong isn't so interesting. Hero yes, interesting, no.

Now, Landis...

That's interesting.

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Postby magnus » Wed May 23, 2007 10:41 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Alex</i>

Armstrong isn't so interesting. Hero yes, interesting, no.

Now, Landis...

That's interesting.

Mountainbiker too.

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Landis interesting? Pathetic more like it? He cant even take drugs properly, he was the lamest bike rider ever. He had no passion like th e pantanis and pettachis out there. SImoni however! World class grand tour rider who still finds time to win italian marathon champs....

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Postby Alex » Wed May 23, 2007 10:50 am

Sorry, but there's no way that Landis is guilty of the drug charges.

a) There's no way that his <s>pharmacist</s> team manager would allow something so stupidly overt and detectable.
b) Having watched him, at the Morzine stage, fly past us hauling ass like a man posessed, ******* miles ahead of the closest follower, no amount of testosterone could do that. None. The man's a machine and he deserved the win and the glory. He didn't deserve any of this crap.

Landis Won. That's enough.

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Postby magnus » Wed May 23, 2007 12:12 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">a) There's no way that his <s>pharmacist</s> team manager would allow something so stupidly overt and detectable.
b) Having watched him, at the Morzine stage, fly past us hauling ass like a man posessed, ******* miles ahead of the closest follower, no amount of testosterone could do that. None. The man's a machine and he deserved the win and the glory. He didn't deserve any of this crap.

Landis Won. That's enough.
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Ha ha typical outsiders point of view. Everyone uses the stuff. You use the gel to help aid you after or you whack some patches on your bawbag. Landis just old mans stamp collectioned up big style but letting a tiny little thing be caught.

Point two. He bonked so bad before. Really really bad.Then went on to make such a comeback?Your right testostrone doesnt make you do that but some clean blood or maybe some fancy corr blimey we dont know about certianly does.

Even before all this buisnees he was lame as fu<u></u>ck.

The sad thing is since cyclings so screwed up at the moment he shall never be proven guilt or not guilty. The uncertaintly shall hang there . He should do a basso or a miller then since hes allready banned he should take a shot of the 'be a bit more cooler' drug.

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Postby Tartanyak » Wed May 23, 2007 13:15 pm

Wait... 'Clean blood'?

Explain!

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Postby Alex » Wed May 23, 2007 13:17 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_doping

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Postby pete700 » Wed May 23, 2007 13:41 pm

This chap is a bit extrodinary aswell!

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Postby JinjaNinja » Wed May 23, 2007 14:01 pm

Whats the point in blood doping when you can jsut to high altitude training, admitedly you have to fly somewhere usualy to do it but it is "legal" in sports isn't it?

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Postby pete700 » Wed May 23, 2007 14:12 pm

Yeah, it is legal. You can't ban people from doing sporting events because of where they live. It does seem like a bit of an un-fair advantage though, but having said that, if you're a professional athlete then the resources needed for high-altitude training is feasible.

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Postby paulf2007 » Wed May 23, 2007 14:46 pm

yes alex, I was there on that final hill in morzine, testosterone only helps you train harder and produce more muscle, it cannot help on the day. We all commented that day ' he must be on something after yesterdys disaster' but it wasn't what they claim. <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Alex</i>

Sorry, but there's no way that Landis is guilty of the drug charges.

a) There's no way that his <s>pharmacist</s> team manager would allow something so stupidly overt and detectable.
b) Having watched him, at the Morzine stage, fly past us hauling ass like a man posessed, ******* miles ahead of the closest follower, no amount of testosterone could do that. None. The man's a machine and he deserved the win and the glory. He didn't deserve any of this crap.

Landis Won. That's enough.

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Postby magnus » Wed May 23, 2007 15:54 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JinjaNinja</i>

Whats the point in blood doping when you can jsut to high altitude training, admitedly you have to fly somewhere usualy to do it but it is "legal" in sports isn't it?

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Means you can do your alituted training when it suits eg winter.Then they can take the blood out of you when it wont affect you (more of the winter) then you feeling a bit tired in a race.Voila they whack some blood full of those lovely little red blood cells that take that lovely o2 to your muscles and you can go ffffffffffffaast! Its reallly really hard to detect becuse its your own blood going back into you.

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Postby paulf2007 » Wed May 23, 2007 17:32 pm

anyway back to the topic I believe was about lance armstrong. After all he went through I doubt he would take drugs. Scientists said they had never met anyone who could absorb so much oxygen into their blood as lance. He was a great climber, time trialist and sprinter, but everyone knows you don't contest sprints when you are after the overal win, its not fair on the sprinters. He was great and should not be knocked for what he achieved. However he is not the best ever, because he did not do all the grand tours and classics, he concentrated on the tour because thats how he made his money. If we are talking about the best, then it has to be eddie merckx, the cannibal. He won everything and contested all the races.

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Postby Gibbon on an Orange » Wed May 23, 2007 17:53 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by paulf2007</i>

yes alex, I was there on that final hill in morzine, testosterone only helps you train harder and produce more muscle, it cannot help on the day. We all commented that day ' he must be on something after yesterdys disaster' but it wasn't what they claim.
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I was at the Finish line in Morzine. It was certainly suspicous.

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Postby Ginsterdrz » Wed May 23, 2007 18:09 pm

Lance who? Never heard of him. Was he a mountainbiker?

Believe he used to ride with a Crow. He just runs marathons now.

This thread is three years too late!

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Postby superspunk » Wed May 23, 2007 19:12 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ginsterdrz</i>

Lance who? Never heard of him. Was he a mountainbiker?

Believe he used to ride with a Crow. He just runs marathons now.

This thread is three years too late!
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And your point is...

Just because his last win was three years ago doesn't make him any less of a hero. John Lennon died 27 years ago but he's still a hero and the best songwriter ever.

Oops! I've probably started an argument about Lennon now.

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Postby Rindle » Wed May 23, 2007 19:39 pm

I think lance was an awesome rider to win a world championship at 21 shows you have to be a bit special.

As good as he was i can't help feeling that a lot of his sucesswas due to

a) his teams ability to buy up certain competition, Roberto Heras.

b) the fact that he was sponsored by an american team who was focused purely on the tour this allowed lance to prepare for one superhuman effort without having to suffer in the cold and mud of the spring classics and without having to lead an attempt on the giro.

That said he was a true proffesional he knew what he as getting paid for and he did it in a wy which devistated the competition and was a great rider to watch. Sure he wasn't as good as Merckx but in all honesty is anyone going to be hat good again.

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Postby Shoe2190 » Thu May 24, 2007 21:14 pm

I was a eoadie still am kinda but in mountain bikeing its so much better i have never heard of drug abuse.

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Postby Amos » Thu May 24, 2007 21:45 pm

Lance Armstrong is a legend.

The guy has a resting heart rate of between 32-34 bpm, and can push it to 201. Thats impressive even if you hate roadies!

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