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ScandAl Evolution from Trek 4500

Postby mcnultycop » Wed May 23, 2012 21:55 pm

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Frame: Standard
Forks: Truly Awful Rock Shox Dart 3
Bars: Standard Bontrager
Stem: Standard Bontrager
Headset: Cane Creek
Grips: ODI Ruffian Lock Ons
Brakes: Avid Juicy 3
Transmission - mix of Shimano Deore and Alivio, as it came
Pedals: Superstar Nanos
Seat: Charge Spoon (new today)
Seat Post: Standard Bontrager
Seat Post Clamp: God knows, but soon to be a pink superstar ones.

Wheels: Standard Bontrager on M475 QR Hubs
Weight: Never weighed, but too much.

Other info:
I bought this bike from my LBS after around 15 years plus of not riding. I still own an Orange Clockwork from then but my mate I let borrow it can't find it! He is still looking for it.

I didn't know what I was looking for when I bought this in mid-2009 but I wanted something to lose weight (I was 23 stone 12 pounds when I bought this) and that would take my weight. At my heaviest the seat post wouldn't stay up on long climbs (it only dropped a couple of inches) unless I tightened it with a hex key rather than the quick release, but otherwise it has hardly skipped a beat.

I bought this with V brakes and they were the first thing I changed, for Avid Juicy 3s. If I wasn't saving up for a new bike these would be replaced. I've been replacing things as I get round to them, so today got a Charge Spoon saddle in Wiggle's sale (a bit like DFS's sale) and am just playing round to get that in the right place. Superstar pedals with Teva Links shoes are a revelation and they've only been on a few weeks.

I also really want a new fork as the Dart 3 is awful; I didn't realise how bad until trying a guy's bike I was chatting to at Lee Quarry with a Reba on who let me have a spin around on it. I get round local trails in Oldham most weeks, and Lee Quarry (20 minutes away from home), Llandegla and Whinlatter when I get chance.

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This is my new bike fund, I really fancy a Trek Remedy 7 but at the moment it is only really the deposit on that. I'm trying to save rather than use 0% finance but it keeps getting more tempting. I'm at 18 stone 3 now, I'm going to treat myself when I get to 15 stone, no matter how much I've saved up.

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I realise it is a million miles from the blingiest bike on here, but even with it's faults I love getting out on it and it has served me really well. I'll keep it for knocking about on when the new bike finally arrives.
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Re: Trek 4500 - Keeping Me Going Whilst I Save Up...

Postby mintedox » Thu May 24, 2012 15:27 pm

Cool bike and fair play :D Keep getting the miles in and when the pile of nuggets gets big enough you will love the upgrade.

What Is the riding like near you? Not been over that way yet and running out of stiff to explore around here.

And whats under the tarp :D
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Re: Trek 4500 - Keeping Me Going Whilst I Save Up...

Postby mcnultycop » Thu May 24, 2012 15:51 pm

There is decent riding all around, not a great deal in the way of singletrack but some nice loops I can put together of bridleways and country parks and the like. I've just been told I'm getting a bonus from work, so hopefully that'll make a dent in the fund.

This is under the tarp. Deceptively quick engine hidden under there.... :wink:

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Re: Trek 4500 - Keeping Me Going Whilst I Save Up...

Postby Matt-r8 » Thu May 24, 2012 20:34 pm

I used to ride a 4500, you'll notice the difference when you get your Remedy. Good luck with your weight loss, having a reason to train always makes it easier :)

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Re: Trek 4500 - Keeping Me Going Whilst I Save Up...

Postby mintedox » Thu May 24, 2012 22:06 pm

mcnultycop wrote:This is under the tarp. Deceptively quick engine hidden under there.... :wink:



Those wheels make me think cosworth...
Papa? Nicole

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Re: Trek 4500 - Keeping Me Going Whilst I Save Up...

Postby mcnultycop » Fri May 25, 2012 13:10 pm

Nothing that dramatic, the wheels are Compomotive CXs, so they just look like lots of BBS type wheels. The engine is a Type 1, but 1915, Twin 44 carbs, and everything upgraded, with a stealthy exhaust that retains the cut outs at the back.

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Re: Trek 4500 - Keeping Me Going Whilst I Save Up...

Postby mcnultycop » Wed Aug 08, 2012 19:54 pm

So I didn't get the Remedy, I ended up with getting a Canyon Nerve AM 7.0 instead. However, I picked up some Reba RL Dual Airs off Swelsbyuk on here that he bought and didn't need. They have absolutely transformed the ride, they feel great and are so much lighter than the Dart 2 forks that were on there.

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I took the opportunity of swapping stem and bars whilst the new forks were going on, so I raided Exotic. The new forks, bar and stem feel great together.

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I've been using the bike just on the local bridleways and the less harsh stuff since getting the Nerve, but did 7 miles tonight with my daughter. She didn't moan too much bearing in mind she is on a crappy single-speed, but she did look like this once we'd got home. I do like the bash-guard on her bike though!

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I need to get her a better bike soon, but I do fancy some new wheels for the Trek at some point.

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Re: Trek 4500 - Upgraditis has taken hold

Postby Darkstalker420 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 01:20 am

LMAO! looks like you killed the nipper :lol: Nice to see really as most kids today spend far to much time in front of TV's and games consoles. There are some good bikes out there for young'uns just don't be swayed by day glow full suspension bikes from Argos :lol:. Got this for our girl:

http://www.bikes2udirect.com/B2780.html

Discontinued now unfortunately :roll:. Ours came with an RST fork instead and is actually quite good for the money. Nice Trek how are you finding the AVID's? i'm a bit of an old stick in the mud (cable BB5 discs) however when they do croak i will look into some Hydro discs maybe.

Thanks.

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Re: Trek 4500 - Upgraditis has taken hold

Postby mcnultycop » Thu Aug 09, 2012 17:09 pm

The Juicy 3's are good for stopping, but they are seemingly impossible to set up so there isn't some slight rubbing. The Magura Mt2/4 combination (I think) on my Canyon feel much better and just seem to work properly, but then I have only done about 150km on them so far, so they may suffer in the future.

I'm going to get her something better, but I may go second hand as at the speed she is growing a new bike will only last her a year or so.

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Re: Trek 4500 - Upgraditis has taken hold

Postby leythervegas » Thu Aug 09, 2012 21:25 pm

Great thread mate. Where are the pictures of the Canyon?

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Re: Trek 4500 - Upgraditis has taken hold

Postby mcnultycop » Fri Aug 10, 2012 09:26 am

leythervegas wrote:Great thread mate. Where are the pictures of the Canyon?


Linked to them about 4 posts up.

I commuted to work on the Trek this morning, 25.3 miles on knobbly tyres, all on road. Not looking forward to the ride home.

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Re: Trek 4500 - Upgraditis has taken hold

Postby mcnultycop » Thu Sep 13, 2012 20:57 pm

Loving the Canyon but still playing out on the Trek, mainly just rides with my daughter locally.

Had a Geax Loco Lobo knocking around which I bought as a spare to stick in the car if I ever had a disaster. I've put it on the front and it feels really good. The compound seems really soft and sticky. I'm going to get another new tyre for the back; not decided what yet - something cheap.

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Never got on with the Juicy 3s, so replaced them with some Deores from Merlin. Not got the levers set up properly and still got to clip the rear hose, but they fitted really easily.

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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby mcnultycop » Sat Oct 20, 2012 18:19 pm

Shorter brake hoses. New Superstar Stans Flow on Red Switch Hubs. New front tyre. New cassette.

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The Superstar rim tape is terrible and is actually stopping the tyre sitting true on the front wheel, I'll get some more in the week and refit it.

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Shiny new cassette (not fitted the new chain yet, it got too dark too quickly and I didn't want to do fiddly stuff in the dark).

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I've put the Geax Loco Lobo I previously had on the front on the new back wheel. I may change it in time, but it'll do for now.

I now have a lot of nice stuff on an OK frame with the OK low range Shimano groupset. I feel a new frame coming on.

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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby mcnultycop » Sun Oct 21, 2012 15:18 pm

Couldn't ride today, so finished what I started yesterday (in daylight hours):

New chain fitted, first time I've done anything that involved breaking and shortening a chain ever. I swore a lot, but I'm glad I've learned how to do this in the garden whilst at the trail-side. Mysteriously when I was testing (OK, really putting the hammer down as a kid on the street challenged me to a race) the gearing the upper jockey wheel flew off. I put it all back together and it seems OK, but they are about 4 years old so I reckon I'll change then anyway.

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I then replaced the Superstar rim tape with red (had to be red) electrical tape, thanks to The Beginner for that tip. I did scrape some of my shiny new decals with the tyre levers, but after a bit of 60psi, let them down, 60psi, let them down, shake them about, 60psi, etc, they Fat Albert now sits properly. It is still tight around the valve area, and I'm praying I don't get a puncture as fixing it trailside would be a nightmare, that thing is tight. This may make me go tubeless!

I also stuck some red grips I got from On-One, to make an order up for free postage and not in anyway because I wanted red ones to go with my new hubs.

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Job done, for the time being (pink pedals look odd now, though, don't they?)

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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby mcnultycop » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:36 am

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This thread is going to die soon, as I'll be transferring everything (that fits) over to the Scandal 26er frame I've just ordered.
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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby chez_m356 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:56 am

mcnultycop wrote:http://www.on-one.co.uk/imgs/products/130x130_constWH/FROO26SCVD-RAW_P1.jpg

This thread is going to die soon, as I'll be transferring everything (that fits) over to the Scandal 26er frame I've just ordered.

why kill it?, just rename it to something like Trek 4500 evolves/transforms into scandal or something along those lines
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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby mcnultycop » Thu Dec 27, 2012 13:15 pm

I could do that.

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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby WindyG » Thu Dec 27, 2012 18:10 pm

Yeah don't kill it you have a decent evolution going on here.

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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby allthegearnoidea » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:45 am

Keep this thread going with the title changed!!! great to see bikes evolve as the rider gets the main bug!!!
dd you take advantage of the 50% off certain frames at on one then???

your daughters bike, same as mne by the looks, just differnt colour, for just over £25 you can cange it over to a 7speed set up, just need a screw on cassette, mech with claw (hanger attatche to it), chain, shifter and cable, did my girls in the summer as she was spinning out ont he run to school but strugling with some of the hills when out for a nip aroundthe woods,
ifairness, she likes to rie in 1st or 7th at the mo, hahah! (she's 6)
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Re: Trek 4500 - New Wheels

Postby mcnultycop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 16:32 pm

allthegearnoidea wrote:dd you take advantage of the 50% off certain frames at on one then???


Yes, but it was up to 50% off, so £50 off. £125 which I thought was OK. I've never built a bike before, so I'm looking forward to it. LBS for headset and BB, then I'll do everything else. Going to go 1x10 on it, I think.

allthegearnoidea wrote:your daughters bike, same as mne by the looks, just differnt colour, for just over £25 you can cange it over to a 7speed set up, just need a screw on cassette, mech with claw (hanger attatche to it), chain, shifter and cable, did my girls in the summer as she was spinning out ont he run to school but strugling with some of the hills when out for a nip aroundthe woods,
ifairness, she likes to rie in 1st or 7th at the mo, hahah! (she's 6)


That has gone now, I've got her a Junior Rockrider from Decathlon: 3x6 gears and red jockey wheels!


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