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Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Mon Oct 08, 2012 14:26 pm

Just signed up, and this is my bike, it started life as a Pinnacle Jarrah 4 (Evans special) and has now become an On One 456 Evo. I have had it in this spec for about 4 month and the bike can do far far more i can or will ever be able to throw at it but its better to have it and not need it i suppose, it climbs quite well too.

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This is the current spec.

Frame: On-One 456 Evo Matt Raw 18”
Fork: 2012 Rockshox Revelation RLT 150

Front Wheel: Hope Pro II with ZTR Flow Rim
Rear Wheel: Hope Pro II with ZTR Flow EX Rim
Tyres: Maxxis High Roller 2.35

Bars: Generic 640 mm bars from my original Pinnacle
Stem: Truativ Hussefelt 60 mm
Headset: On-One Smoothie
Grips: Superstar Supagripa

Brakes: Shimano M666 SLX Levers and Callipers
Front Brake Disc: Hope 205 mm Fixed Rotor
Rear Brake Disc: Avid 160 mm G3 Cleansweep

Shifters: Deore SL 9sp Rapidfire
Front Mech: Deore M592
Rear Mech: SLX M662 Shadow
Cranks: SLX M660 (3x9) 175 mm

Seat: Charge Spoon
Seatpost: On-One Twelfty
Pedals: Nukeproof Electrons

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby paulneenan76 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 23:32 pm

Wow, that's fantastic, just the kind of inspiration I need. I'm about to embark on a frame swap from my heavily modded carrera kraken to an 456Carbon.

Good to see someone else doing it, and I love the Evo's with the raw look.

How are you finding the fork? Did you get it as a frame bundle? And if so, are you happy with 150mm or would you have gone smaller? Sorry bout the questions :D

Thanks.
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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby chez_m356 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:59 am

Barrelmaker wrote: the bike can do far far more i can or will ever be able to throw at it

    i would imagine thats true for 99% of us on here regardless of what we ride, although it doesn't hurt to dream :lol:
    a great looking bike you've built their mate, very nice :D
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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:07 pm

paulneenan76 wrote:How are you finding the fork? Did you get it as a frame bundle? And if so, are you happy with 150mm or would you have gone smaller? Sorry bout the questions :D

Thanks.


I haven't got much to compare the fork against given the Pinnacle had Coil sprung 100 mm Dart 3's. So compared to those the Revs are quite an improvement. And yes i got the 500 quid frame bundle they were advertising around April time so it was a case of i'll get what i'm given. Personally i like having that much travel but i should imagine it will handle well with 120-130, it would be slightly easier on the climbs but like i said its not that bad with 150mm

chez_m356 wrote:a great looking bike you've built their mate, very nice


Cheers chez, there are a lot of nice bikes on here!

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby paulneenan76 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 22:13 pm

In think you've done a fantastic job with it - one of the best 456's I've seen.

I'm running a 100mm coil fork - the thing I'm struggling with for my 456 build is, which fork to go for in terms of travel? Like you, will coming from a 100mm coil, to a plush 150mm Revelation be so good and such a step up, that you wouldn't be thinking, I'd have preferred less travel for climbing and wish you'd gone 130mm? Or even a dual position 120-150 fork?

I guess if 150mm is an ok climber, or you don't really notice much of a difference over your last could fork and pinnacle frame, but is a massively brilliant descender in comparison, then what's to lose really?

Minefield eh?

Thanks

Paul
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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby ellsbells1973 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 09:39 am

very nice indeed, nice to see one with a white rev fork, I'm planning getting one for mine

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby leaflite » Wed Oct 10, 2012 15:00 pm

paulneenan76 wrote:In think you've done a fantastic job with it - one of the best 456's I've seen.

I'm running a 100mm coil fork - the thing I'm struggling with for my 456 build is, which fork to go for in terms of travel? Like you, will coming from a 100mm coil, to a plush 150mm Revelation be so good and such a step up, that you wouldn't be thinking, I'd have preferred less travel for climbing and wish you'd gone 130mm? Or even a dual position 120-150 fork?

I guess if 150mm is an ok climber, or you don't really notice much of a difference over your last could fork and pinnacle frame, but is a massively brilliant descender in comparison, then what's to lose really?

Minefield eh?

Thanks

Paul



Remember that if you werent happy with the climbing at 150mm, you could reduce the travel to 140 or 130mm with the spacers supplied with the fork.
In my experience, the fixed travel versions of the revelation are more reliable and work better. The Dual position air fork on the titus seems to blow through the travel a lot.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Wed Oct 10, 2012 16:48 pm

With regards to the climbing aspect, i figured if i can get used to climbing using 150mm travel anything shorter should be a doddle. I like to think of it as resistance training!

ellsbells1973 wrote:very nice indeed, nice to see one with a white rev fork, I'm planning getting one for mine


I have got a lot of time for your 456 ellsbells. Really like the orange colour coding.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby zenroad » Wed Oct 10, 2012 20:46 pm

[quote="Barrelmaker"]Just signed up, and this is my bike, it started life as a Pinnacle Jarrah 4 (Evans special) and has now become an On One 456 Evo. I have had it in this spec for about 4 month and the bike can do far far more i can or will ever be able to throw at it but its better to have it and not need it i suppose, it climbs quite well too.

Barrelmaker-

Nice EVO. I just ordered the frame yesterday from Planet X. 20" matt finish. Should be here in a week or so.

I'm going to set it up for an expedition. It will carry me from Florida to California and then on to Japan for more. I almost went with a Surly Troll, but the EVO's geo won me over.

Any idea for fenders? No attachments.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby zenroad » Wed Oct 10, 2012 23:43 pm

[quote="Barrelmaker"]Just signed up, and this is my bike, it started life as a Pinnacle Jarrah 4 (Evans special) and has now become an On One 456 Evo. I have had it in this spec for about 4 month and the bike can do far far more i can or will ever be able to throw at it but its better to have it and not need it i suppose, it climbs quite well too.

Barrelmaker-

Could you post some pics of the clearance between your rear whell and the stump-end of the single wishbone seatstay tube? Right there where your tire passes below it. The frame and the tire are pretty close at that point. I haven't got my bike together yet (don't even have the frame yet), and I'm trying to determine if there's enough room in that tiny gap for a fender to slide through.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Thu Oct 11, 2012 09:55 am

zenroad wrote:Could you post some pics of the clearance between your rear whell and the stump-end of the single wishbone seatstay tube? Right there where your tire passes below it. The frame and the tire are pretty close at that point. I haven't got my bike together yet (don't even have the frame yet), and I'm trying to determine if there's enough room in that tiny gap for a fender to slide through.


I shall post a pic tonight when i finsih work. There is some clearance with the 2.35's. Just depends on how wide and knobbly your tyres will be.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby zenroad » Thu Oct 11, 2012 14:02 pm

Thanks, Barrelmaker (Cooper?).

I'm actually going to set it up for the street with 1.75 hybrid tires (Continental Travel Contact, which I've been using for a couple years now; great tires), so I may have enough clearance to slide a fender between the frame and the tire. I wish On-One would have put a threaded hole on the butt-end of that wishbone tube. Now I can't remember if it's you or someone else who told me that they are having one installed in just that spot. I may end up trying to use the rack mounts that are a couple of inches up that tube. I won't be using them for a rack, so they will be available. Speaking of racks...

Have you seen the Freeload rack system? Thats what I'm using. Brilliant. I already have one for the back, and I'll be getting anohter for the front. Actually, they're the same rack. Freeload doesn't make front- and rear-specific racks. One rack fits both places.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Thu Oct 11, 2012 18:56 pm

There are a couple of pics of the tyre clearances, bear in mind they are quite wide 2.35s on a ZTR Flow rim which is 29mm wide.

The distance between seat stays at the point the rim passes is about 92 mm, so with a narrow rim and tire there should be ample room to fit a guard

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That is probably my favourite design feature of the frame, the way the seat stays extend past the braces, i also like the welding as well!

As for the username, Cooper was taken so i had to improvise.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby jesseedwards » Thu Nov 08, 2012 18:06 pm

I have the same frame coming my way in a few days. Building it up with older flow/hope wheels & a white Fox RL 120, so it's nice to know what my bike will look like. Been a bit concerned about the slackness of the headtube, cause I can't find concrete numbers for this frame with a 120mm fork sagged and my old stumpy FSR to do a comparison. I love climbing out of the saddle, so I can't imagine this frame will be a problem, though.

How does the frame "feel"? I've a Kona Unit SS and a Surly 1x1 and love the way the surly steel feels. Steel is nice for taking the edge of things, but have read mixed reviews about this frame. planning on running my Purgatory 2.2s so hoping that will give me enough cushion for now.

Happy riding.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Thu Nov 08, 2012 22:12 pm

I don't have much to compare it to being honest but i have never felt it lacking in any situation. With 150mm forks the front and can wander around a bit on the climbs but i only really notice this when in the wrong gear going up a switch back. Once i'm under way though, no problems. It should climb better with a 120 as well.

I find the steel more comfy than my previous alu frame and its quite compliant over rocky stuff and drops.

What i did find weird going from a 100mm XC bike to a 150mm LTHT was the way the front end felt. It took a while to get used to the way the front wheel wanted to stay straight, that probably doesn't explain it very well but it feels a lot more focussed.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby raceface gt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 22:14 pm

Nice buddy

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby JayKay3000 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 14:58 pm

Better to have more capability than not enough.

Smart.

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby chrisannear87 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 18:33 pm

hi,

do you know the weight?

thanks chris

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby Barrelmaker » Mon Dec 31, 2012 17:01 pm

Its not a lightweight by any means! When i weighed it it was about 30lb. I'm sure you could bring that down quite a bit though. I'd say about 8lb of that is just on the wheels and tyres. But i like to think of it as resistance training!

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Re: Another OnOne 456 Evo

Postby DanDax1990 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 17:48 pm

Love the look of these frames!


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