Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 14:18 pm

MrPhil wrote:Need to replace the ghetto tube on mine, worn through due to the recent weather making the chain suck.

Has become alot less frequent when using Muc off G3 chain lube though.


Good to know it works though eh! And so cheap to replace (love a bargain me).

Is the G3 the ceramic one? I'm almost out of the muc-off wet lube so the g3 will be my next purchase if its better than what I'm using.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby MrPhil » Mon Jan 07, 2013 03:38 am

Oops, it was C3 not G3.

http://muc-off.com/en/bicycle/19-c3-cer ... ry=bicycle

Only needs a little bit to work on the rollers of the chain. Spin it a few times then wipe off excess.

Will be buying White lightening Clean for the summer use.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:13 am

Ah C3 :). I'll give it a go and see how it does - though the standard Muc Off wet lube has worked a treat for over a year now. I use it all year round as dry lube is much less effective for the conditions where I ride.

I'm not sure where you ride or the conditions you have throughout the year, but it seems to be the general consensus that dry lubes are pretty much pointless for off-roaders as its only two weeks in the year where the trails are completely dry! Fine for roadies. This might not apply to your local conditions of course so don't take it as law ;D

We have lots of sandy, muddy grit round here, all year round.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby MrPhil » Mon Jan 07, 2013 19:59 pm

Tried alot of lubes in the past, Muc Off Wet lube (horrible ime), Muc Off Dry lube (ok for minimal miles under 20 in dry conditions), Finish line Wet, again to thick. Finish line dry, worked well on the commute, over 20 miles nah. GT85 worked better!
Gold lube? Forget then name but thin stuff, ok for 40miles road work, pish off road.
White Lightening, Clean, and epic were better than the Wet ime.

C3 seems to be the winner at the moment.

My commute is on country lanes, can be wet most days and also the Wirral Way on the way back. Again this can be wet due to standing water. Try to hit the coast twice a week for a 28 mile ride home after work. Sand involved for a short distance. Some lubes attract the bloody stuff!

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 22:48 pm

I'll give the C3 a try when the Wet runs out. Hope for a nice dry spring and a summer drought for less maintenance this year - highly doubtful though :)

Yeah lots of sand round Woburn but we are almost the furthest point from the sea so its not of the beach variety.

In heading up to Liverpool again next month - is there much good riding your way?

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby MrPhil » Mon Jan 07, 2013 23:59 pm

Sure is, from liverpool you have option of the following with times from tunnel

Delamere, xc forest boggy but good for fitness. 50mins

Moel Famou, xc + mountain downhill, 60mins

Llandegla, all trail centre. 60mins

We have some short sections off the wirral way but not worth the trip to be honest.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:39 am

My 456C seems to be quite flexible on the rear end - as in, if you stay the bike with your hand on the saddle and then grab the wheel with the other and flex back and forward - is this normal?

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:51 pm

Plyphon wrote:My 456C seems to be quite flexible on the rear end - as in, if you stay the bike with your hand on the saddle and then grab the wheel with the other and flex back and forward - is this normal?


Check the rear drop outs are tight first off. Whilst the wheel is off, check the frame over, though I doubt the frame is the problem. Then check your rear quick release and the hub for play. Could need tightening or the rear bearings might be worn out or need greasing up.

I'm sure it's not much to worry about and/or is a cheap fix. If in doubt, pop it to your LBS.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Tue Jan 08, 2013 13:01 pm

There is a little play in the hub but this seems external to the wheel - just a bit flexy like you'd get from a steel frame.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 14:47 pm

It can't be the frame surely? I'd take it to the LBS for a once over just to be sure. My frame does not flex in the rear stays when stationary and moving with my hands.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Tue Jan 08, 2013 19:27 pm

Hmm. Maybe it is the wheel flexing in the spokes.

I'll take another look

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby leythervegas » Tue Jan 08, 2013 22:09 pm

I've got a similar problem with my front wheel, my lbs can't find a cure and he's checked it over thoroughly and changed the bearings

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:43 am

I've read a little play in the rear wheel is acceptable. It honestly isn't "loose" the rear wheel and isn't worrying me.

The flex isnt at the length of the stays themselves, just at the extremities. As in, it just rocks slightly at the end like you'd get on a steel frame.

I took a 2nd look and it isn't as much as I remembered. I'm sure its fine. Certainly held up this weekend with a couple of savage drops and even worse climbs!

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:04 am

Perhaps ill film it later.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:31 am

Plyphon wrote:Perhaps ill film it later.


Yeah i'd be interested in seeing it - comparing it.
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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Wed Jan 09, 2013 17:09 pm

also:

Bonus pic from the entrance to a new trail found this weekend:

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 18:49 pm

Nice Pic Plyphon

Well here's mine - all done after some bearing trouble courtesy of Susperstar (who I love but am now p*ssed at). See the full thread via this or link in sig. viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=12898838

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Plyphon » Wed Jan 09, 2013 23:20 pm

Looks dialled! Sick ride.


came to the conclusion the rear stays arent flexing, just the wheel is flexing slightly in the spokes and then on the tyre - rear end looks solid. :)

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 23:47 pm

Cheers Plyphon. It's nice to have something "sick" that's not my clothing where my baby daughter has thrown up over me! Nice one.

Yeah I was confident it wasn't the frame, certainly not when stationary anyway. Might be worth a wheel tune at your LBS. usually cheap thing to have them do.
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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby paulneenan76 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 17:13 pm

So my first ride took place early doors on Saturday morning. Properly impressed, loved it etc etc., and am desperate to take it out on a night ride with my Thursday night group ride mates. I need to do some tweaking to my Fork set up as I've only set pressure and sag so far - so if anyone has an idiots guide or link to youtube video i'd be most grateful. Here are some gratuitous shots. It snowed but unlike today, it didnt hang around.
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