Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

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On-One Swap-Out Replaceable Vertical Dropout B & B2 Type

Postby Ceed » Mon Apr 08, 2013 06:52 am

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B Type Is Caliper inner Mount

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B2 Type is Caliper Outer Mount

is it correct?

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Re: On-One Smoothie Mixer Tapered Headset Crown Race

Postby aidieb » Mon Apr 08, 2013 09:26 am

Ceed wrote:Image

Or 1-1/2 crown race Buy Seperately?


Separate purchase I´m afraid!!

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Re: On-One Smoothie Mixer Tapered Headset Crown Race

Postby Ceed » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:48 am

aidieb wrote:
Ceed wrote:Image

Or 1-1/2 crown race Buy Seperately?


Separate purchase I´m afraid!!


What's mean? "Separate purchase I´m afraid!!"???

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Re: On-One Smoothie Mixer Tapered Headset Crown Race

Postby Mr.Evil » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:43 pm

Ceed wrote:
aidieb wrote:Separate purchase I´m afraid!!
What's mean? "Separate purchase I´m afraid!!"???

if you read the description here
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HSOOSMTAPER ... ed_headset

the On One Smoothie Mixer headset is for a 1" 1/8 straight steerer tube
Works with standard 1 1/8in steerer forks straight out of the box or with tapered steerer forks using the 1 1/2in crown race (available seperately)


so, for a tapered steerer tube, you need to buy both, the headset and also the 1.5" adapter

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Neal_ » Mon Apr 08, 2013 17:06 pm

Or get the headset from superstar which comes with both crown races, is cheaper and betterer

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=425

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby BlueAdvocate » Mon Apr 08, 2013 19:24 pm

I went for the slackset, one degree.
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HSWCSLS/on_one_slackset_headset_by_works_components_for_carbon_456
have to say I'm really pleased with the way the bike handles some of the Pennine trails I've been riding.

oh and if you get one of these
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there is no risk of fouling with the caliper; depends on your brakes and rotor size as to whether it's an issue of course.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby lon 456 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 21:47 pm

Neal_ wrote:Or get the headset from superstar which comes with both crown races, is cheaper and betterer

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=425



i wouldn't , wait till you want to remove it!!!

go hope or the on one mixer as they are shorter depth so you can still tap them out of the frame or reuse if need be after frame issues re paint etc .


only my 2p

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby JMcP92 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 00:14 am

I went for the Superstar headset, easy to put together and feels good, never had to concern myself with removing it though

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby pastey_boy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 07:05 am

JMcP92 wrote:I went for the Superstar headset, easy to put together and feels good, never had to concern myself with removing it though

I have had the dubious pleasure of trying to remove one and it was not easy and resulted in a very knackered lower cup.
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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Ceed » Tue Apr 09, 2013 09:00 am

pastey_boy wrote:Heres one I built for a customer using a Saracen Zen as a donor bike. All the bits inc cables swapped straight over except the lower headset cup so a Hope bottom cup did the trick. Frame was £399, Saracen £499,Hope bottom cup £25. I'm building his mate the exact same bike using the orange carbon 456. And as an added bonus I now have two 14inch Saracen Zen frames !!!!!!!
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This Frame is 2013 18" yellow one ?


I don't know which one to choose between the 16 and 18 inches.

< measurements >
height 5'11"(180.5cm)
Inseam 80cm

< current bike image & specs >
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seat tube : 17" (430mm)
actual top tube : 570mm
100mm fork, Reverb 380mm/125mm, 60mm stem, 740 riser bar




i think 18" frame seat tube just little big for me
will assemble 160mm fork, Rock Shox Reverb 380mm/125mm
For easily handle, i want to purchase 16" frame

i need some advice. 16" 18" frame user

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Neal_ » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:37 am

lon 456 wrote:
Neal_ wrote:Or get the headset from superstar which comes with both crown races, is cheaper and betterer

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=425



i wouldn't , wait till you want to remove it!!!

go hope or the on one mixer as they are shorter depth so you can still tap them out of the frame or reuse if need be after frame issues re paint etc .


only my 2p



pastey_boy wrote:
JMcP92 wrote:I went for the Superstar headset, easy to put together and feels good, never had to concern myself with removing it though

I have had the dubious pleasure of trying to remove one and it was not easy and resulted in a very knackered lower cup.



I got the SSC headset as I thought the lower cup was a shorter depth than the On One headset! Oh well, if it ever needs removing it's likely going in the bin anyway and they're only £30ish

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby lon 456 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:11 pm

yes the SS set work fine

my sons frame cracked after 6mth and after free replacement from on one , had to get a mixer as the SS one needed grips to remove it lol chewed it to buggery as it was so damn tight with no means to attack from top of frame !!

so in the unlikely event of frame issue you will need a new set , so a £40 bill for something you shouldn't have needed.

foresight eh it can save you a shilling or 2

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Mr.Evil » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:50 pm

as you speak about headsets ...

for a tapered Talas 140, what do you think about the Cane Creek 40 Series (ZS44/30 - EC49/40) instead of a Superstar T2 or the On One Smoothie Mixer ?

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby MrPhil » Tue Apr 09, 2013 15:05 pm

Hope ones are on offer on CRC now for around £46 bargain ime

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby leythervegas » Tue Apr 09, 2013 19:25 pm

Has anyone ever done a long epic on a c456? I'm doing e c2c early next year and need advice on suitable tyres (skinny ones just don't look right on this bike) and panniers/racks for luggage. Don't think I've ever seen one with panniers on -can you get them to fit?

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby BlueAdvocate » Tue Apr 09, 2013 21:18 pm

bumped this post for leythervegas..

dan-abel wrote:I used a Seatpost Clamp Rack and panniers..

Had to use two empty plastic water bottles and cable ties to keep the panniers from flexing and rubbing the rear tyre..

When we got to our destination we left the rack and backpack behind, unwound the TALAS to 140 and hit the trails!

My girlfriend rides a Steel 456 Summer Season which had a Recon 351 (85-130mm travel) and did the same..

we had an amazing On-One Trip through France...


go back a few pages

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby Ceed » Sat Apr 13, 2013 17:33 pm

Can anyone tell me what the BB height of the Carbon 456 is?

Obviously the is dependent on the fork length, so please specify that as well. (150mm Or 160mm is good)

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby the_moodster » Sun Apr 14, 2013 21:42 pm

Mine is 348mm floor to centre bb with 150 foxes and 2.35 rubber

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby lon 456 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 19:22 pm

after stripping my on one smoothie mixer today after it started sticking? its buggered , so much for sealed bearing ...

full of mud and all rusty and only a few mth old .... so not a fan of that £40 piece of junk head set

ordered the super star one which ill modify so i can remove it if need be and you can at least get new bearings "sealed ones at that"

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Re: Carbon 456 owners pictures and spec

Postby BlueAdvocate » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:02 pm

lon 456 wrote:after stripping my on one smoothie mixer today after it started sticking? its buggered , so much for sealed bearing ...

full of mud and all rusty and only a few mth old .... so not a fan of that £40 piece of junk head set

ordered the super star one which ill modify so i can remove it if need be and you can at least get new bearings "sealed ones at that"

No different the FSA one on my Trek though; I stripped and replaced the ball bearings.


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