I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby The Rookie » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:16 am

paulneenan76 wrote: the build cost my LBS would charge

WHAT??

Getting your LBS to build YOUR bike? NOOOOoooooooooo

Doing it yourself is far more satisfactory!

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:57 am

Yes it is very likely that building my bike is more satisfactory but A - I really do not have the time B - I really really don't have the skills C - I will fool it up D - I will damage it and that will cause my head to explode...... I could go on but the point is, whilst I know it's great to build it yourself, it's just not practical for me. Now I do have a friend who is an expert bike mechanic who would help me (in a joint exercise) for beer money but I don't like to presume. Also my LBS I trust and they will not simply take off the Kraken and put on the C456 but sonic clean and polish every part meaning I get very close to a complete new ride :D. Plus, if they fook it up, they pay for it!!

Spoke to On One and I need a top pull 34.9 clamp bottom or top swing front derailleur. Time to find a new SRAM x7 on the cheap!
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby supersonic » Thu Oct 11, 2012 15:05 pm

Frame swaps can be £100.

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 16:24 pm

supersonic wrote:Frame swaps can be £100.


That's what I've been quoted thereabouts. Of course I could get it cheaper if I shopped about but it's only marginal savings. Doing it on my own will cost me more I'm sure.
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby felix.london » Thu Oct 11, 2012 16:54 pm

paulneenan76 wrote:
supersonic wrote:Frame swaps can be £100.


That's what I've been quoted thereabouts. Of course I could get it cheaper if I shopped about but it's only marginal savings. Doing it on my own will cost me more I'm sure.


But you will gain the knowledge for the next time :wink: as well as gaining the knowledge to tweak, maintain & fix every component & part of your bike. And of course the rewarding feeling of...I built this myself which is worth a lot more than a couple hundred quid...to me at least.

I get far more enjoyment from riding my Rockhopper or Snap than I do from riding the session because I built those two myself
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 17:26 pm

My preference would be to do a supervised build :^). But I can't garuantee that'll happen. I absolutely agree and love the idea of building it myself but time restrictions mean it'll take a very long time indeed :D.

At the moment though, my focus is on getting the bits I need for the C456 which i don't have on my current ride/won't swap over. And of course waiting to see what On One do with the pricing of the frame cos I'm not spending £500 frame only :^)
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby The Rookie » Thu Oct 11, 2012 17:39 pm

If you have a mate with the skills, offer him sensible money (£50 perhaps!) to do it and show you how he's doing, best of both worlds!

The last bike I built, I had all the parts sitting ready to go and it took less than 2 hours from frame to test ride, admittedly that was a conventional internal BB and cable brakes and hydraulic take a little longer, but even so......that was in the Utility!

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 22:42 pm

The Beginner wrote:If you have a mate with the skills, offer him sensible money (£50 perhaps!) to do it and show you how he's doing, best of both worlds!

The last bike I built, I had all the parts sitting ready to go and it took less than 2 hours from frame to test ride, admittedly that was a conventional internal BB and cable brakes and hydraulic take a little longer, but even so......that was in the Utility!


Yeah it's definitely the better rout in terms of A - sense of achievement B - picking up maintenance skills and C - cost effectiveness. But we'll see.

Had an email from On One advising me they are not re-stocking the black non-decalled frame (I want black with grey decals) which points to an upcoming change in their 456 line up. Spoke to an On One guy today who said they have implemented a monthly sales strategy to replace the "what shall we sell off cheap today" strategy - who knows what that means in terms of my budget build :|
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:11 am

The Beginner wrote:Err...get what you can quick perhaps!


I took it as, 'we would like you to spend your money now please, not wait till we drop the price next month' ;)
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 08:48 am

http://imageshack.us/a/img402/6263/imagekvv.jpg

Hopefully these links goes to a imageshack photo of my new wheelset etc form superstar.

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/18/imagexda.jpg/
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby 70\'sPenguin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 14:32 pm

paulneenan76 wrote:http://imageshack.us/a/img402/6263/imagekvv.jpg

Hopefully these links goes to a imageshack photo of my new wheelset etc form superstar.

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/18/imagexda.jpg/


Such a shame you had to spoil them with those vile tyres ;)

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 18:15 pm

70\'sPenguin wrote:
paulneenan76 wrote:http://imageshack.us/a/img402/6263/imagekvv.jpg

Hopefully these links goes to a imageshack photo of my new wheelset etc form superstar.

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/18/imagexda.jpg/


Such a shame you had to spoil them with those vile tyres ;)


:D how very dare you!! Yeah they are a marmite tyre but I love them - both look and performance. Had Conti verts before which I'd go back to once I kill these off - or get the Pana's again lol.
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby The Rookie » Sun Oct 14, 2012 19:58 pm

70\'sPenguin wrote:Such a shame you had to spoil them with those vile tyres ;)


Your computer must have a virus and be redirecting you away from the real pics :roll: :roll:

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 22:58 pm

Update on how I'm finding my new Superstar wheelset!!

Well, just Awesome. The uplift in performance has been excellent and I'm well chuffed. Along with a good service, new cables and a new X7 rear mech, I'm loving it and can't wait to get it all on to a C456 (come on On One drop the price again please).

After a rubbish night ride on Thursday (poor route choice), I managed to get out on the Woburn trails for a few hours early this morning with my brother. Trails held up well considering the poor weather and we had great fun :^)

Here's a pic

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 06:51 am

The Beginner wrote:That shed needs some work, not sure I'd have leant my bike on it!


Yeah it's not a well maintained property but it is in a prime Woburn location - It's the start and end point for 3 trails :)
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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby The Rookie » Mon Oct 22, 2012 08:07 am

Clearly the shed could use some upgrades, some benches, sides that look like a fart won't blow them over, a decent roof and a bike rack.....most importantly what colour anodizing for the fittings.....

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby mrmonkfinger » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:53 pm

The thick end of a grand to end up with all your old components on an on-one frame and a new fork?

Crazy.

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Re: I would love a new frame but it'll be a work in progress

Postby paulneenan76 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 20:52 pm

mrmonkfinger wrote:The thick end of a grand to end up with all your old components on an on-one frame and a new fork?

Crazy.


I don't understand what you're saying here - thick end of a grand? A large percentage of my current bike ports over -leaving a c456 frame, front mech, headset, seatpost and clamp which won't. I will get some Rockshox Revs to compliment the frame but its not needed straight away. Everything I've done, upgraded, changed, since I got back on a bike has been to a budget. This will continue with the On One Carbon 456 frame. However, I could go buy the frame bundle from On One and still build a complete bike for £250 less than a grand. So, not sure what you mean, but I don't see it as "crazy", but a very cheap and easy option even at on ones current price point.

But if you'd like to expand on your point, I'm happy to listen.

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