Help!!! Norco or Scott.

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Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby lbalony » Tue Jan 08, 2013 20:20 pm

Hi Guys, Hoping you can be of great help! I am in a dilema. I have bought a Scott Genius 30 M 2012 but I am not sure if I am regretting it. I was torn between that and the Norco Sight 2 2013. I love the genius but I am going to have to get new bars, brakes etc. Where as the Norco has the kit I would be happy with but it is not carbon. I am not sure weather to return the bike un-ridden as I bought it online.

What would you guys pick?

Norco Sight 2 2013 or Scott Genius 30 2012 and why?

Cheers!!! :D

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby cooldad » Tue Jan 08, 2013 20:28 pm

Adding a few links would help.
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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby lbalony » Tue Jan 08, 2013 20:33 pm

Sorry, just joined and a complete noob!!!

Norco Sight 2 2013
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/Nor ... e-ec041223

Scott Genius 30 2012
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/Sco ... e-ec030824

Thanks for pointing the lack of links out as could have been a post with no replies then!! much apreciated!!

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby qooqiiu » Tue Jan 08, 2013 21:19 pm

Purely on aesthetics id choose the Norco. The scott looks weird. How much was the Scott as there is no price listed?

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby lbalony » Tue Jan 08, 2013 21:29 pm

It was 2500

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby cooldad » Tue Jan 08, 2013 23:13 pm

I'd be expecting more than SLX etc for two and a half grand. I don't like proprietary parts like the Scott shock - just a hassle when you need things done, and RS are just easier forks, plus I prefer Shimano stuff so I'd take the Norco of the two.
But if it was my money I'd be looking at other options.
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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby Myster101 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 23:39 pm

I'd keep the Scott but then I'm biased :wink: The Scott rear shock with its 3 positions is great by the way.

(Mines does have RS Revs and Shimano group set though).
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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby supersonic » Tue Jan 08, 2013 23:40 pm

Have you tested the bikes?

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby Cat With No Tail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 07:45 am

Why are you going to have to get new bars & brakes? Are the stock ones faulty?

Spec-wise, they're both fairly similar, X7 = SLX. So that really depends on if you prefer SRAM or Shimano. But if you prefer shimano I assume you'd not have bought this bike to start with. The Scott has a carbon frame if that is important to you.

I prefer SLX to X7, and I prefer Rockshox to Fox, but I'd also prefer the DT Swiss hubs on the Scott to the SLX/Mavic ones on the Norco.

As Sonic says, if it absolutely has to be 1 of those 2, you need to try them both and see which one you feel rides best.

tbh if it were my money, I'd have gone for neither one.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:07 am

Cat With No Tail wrote:Spec-wise, they're both fairly similar, X7 = SLX. So that really depends on if you prefer SRAM or Shimano. But if you prefer shimano I assume you'd not have bought this bike to start with. The Scott has a carbon frame if that is important to you.


I would say that X9 is closer to SLX than X7. The X7 groupset I had was worse than my Deore groupset and the X0 I have at the moment isn't really any better than SLX.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby The Rookie » Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:14 am

Nominally X7=SLX however in this months MBUK groupset review SLX thrashed X7.

The Scott rear shock is a DT Swiss (according to MBUK recent review) with Scott bespoke application, any DT Swiss servicer would be able to service it though, MBUK didn't rate the rear suspension very well though, criticising the shock (DT Swiss rarely score well for suspension - or at least not as well as it should for it's price compared to Fox/RS offerings).

Based on the above and that the Shimano brakes are better than Avid, I'd have the Norco, but ultimately it depends on how it rides FOR YOU.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby Cat With No Tail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:28 am

RockmonkeySC wrote:
Cat With No Tail wrote:Spec-wise, they're both fairly similar, X7 = SLX. So that really depends on if you prefer SRAM or Shimano. But if you prefer shimano I assume you'd not have bought this bike to start with. The Scott has a carbon frame if that is important to you.


I would say that X9 is closer to SLX than X7. The X7 groupset I had was worse than my Deore groupset and the X0 I have at the moment isn't really any better than SLX.


X5 = Deore
X7 = SLX
X9 = XT
X0 = XTR

At least that's how it should work.

In reality though, over the last few years SRAM products have got so bad it's now more like:

X9 = Deore
X0 = Shiny Deore
Everything else = Dump!

Such a shame because I've always been a big SRAM fan, but I'll be changing back to Shimano this year. They've had enough last chances now.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:36 am

My X0 DH groupset works ok but for what it costs I wouldn't even consider buying it, it's not worth paying half as much as Saint.
Shimano products are so much better made I wouldn't buy anything else BUT I wouldn't be put off buying a good bike just because it has a SRAM transmission, I would just upgrade to Shimano when it wears out.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby lbalony » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:27 am

Wow. Great response and some good issues raised.

So for that sort of money, what would you be looking for and why?

Wanted to upgrade bars as feel terribly skinny, and the avid brakes dont compare to my last set of brakes.


I have not tried either? Just sat on and looked at spec, how would i go about a try before buy?


Is carbon important to me? I'll be honest i dont know the difference in ride just that i know what carbon is and its benefits over metals. Some advice on carbon vs alloy would be good too?

Cheers guys! Glad i signed up!!

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby The Rookie » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:52 am

For a full suss, carbon is lighter, the tube is more easily damaged bu sharp point impacts but less easily damaged by large blunt impacts.

Choose to either keep or return, why look ay upgrades if you think you'll send it back, you don't have long under the DSR so doubt you'll have time for some test rides (phone around, find a shop with one, arrange a ride!)

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby hainman » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:32 pm

What about the Trek Fuel EX8??
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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 09, 2013 18:16 pm

hainman wrote:What about the Trek Fuel EX8??


Good ride and light but I know three people who have snapped rear triangles and one of them has cracked the seat tube as well. Modern Trek's are very weak.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby lbalony » Wed Jan 09, 2013 18:54 pm

Yes I am going to return tomorrow and start this whole thing again. I like the idea of test rides, we have an evens right near me so will see if they have any test bikes. Just wish spending my money on a good steed was easy. too many options and variables. Should have just kept my Canyon Nerve XC 8.0.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby Cat With No Tail » Thu Jan 10, 2013 08:26 am

If you liked the Nerve so much, how come you got rid?

You've got rid of the nerve, then spent an extra £1,000 on top of that just to buy another bike with equal or slightly lesser spec.

Was it just extra travel you wanted? If so how come you didn't just go for another Canyon, especially seeing as they are about the best value for money you will get anywhere.

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Re: Help!!! Norco or Scott.

Postby paulyh101 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 18:19 pm

lbalony wrote:Hi Guys, Hoping you can be of great help! I am in a dilema. I have bought a Scott Genius 30 M 2012 but I am not sure if I am regretting it. I was torn between that and the Norco Sight 2 2013. I love the genius but I am going to have to get new bars, brakes etc. Where as the Norco has the kit I would be happy with but it is not carbon. I am not sure weather to return the bike un-ridden as I bought it online.

What would you guys pick?

Norco Sight 2 2013 or Scott Genius 30 2012 and why?

Cheers!!! :D

Pm me Hi ive been running a 2012
sight 2 se since they arrived in the uk last year :D


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