Cramp whilst riding and after!

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Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby lee170 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 19:58 pm

I suffer from really painful cramp towards the end of a ride and after the ride to, sometimes I can't move just locked up,thighs and calfs solid. I know it has a little to do with fitness but I am reasonably fit, commute 30 miles a day to and from work. I drink plenty of fluids including electrolytes.
I get cramp of the toes quite alot to, sometimes just when lay in bed or sat down.
Does anyone else suffer with cramp bad who has maybe tried some other products to alleviate cramp

Any help is very much appreciated

Lee

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby Chunkers1980 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 20:38 pm

I'd see your doc.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby lee170 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 21:32 pm

I have, they just say that I need to up my fluid intake which is rubbish

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Oct 10, 2012 08:26 am

could be too many electrolytes, counter-intuitively.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby beancounter » Wed Oct 10, 2012 09:16 am

I used to suffer cramp after rides, especially calves.

I read that it might be due to a mineral deficiency so I started taking a daily multi-vitamin/multi-mineral supplement.

No cramp since.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby anj132 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 09:39 am

I have always suffered from cramps too. I want to blame it partly on genetics considering my brother suffers a lot from it as well.

Fitness for me plays a big part in it and usually happens when I'm getting tired. I use to get it a lot playing football, over stretching when jumping use to do it.

People use to say it's a lack of salt in my diet but I never found eating salty foods helped. What did help was having electrolyte drinks before and during exercise and also a couple of bananas before as well. You say plenty but what is plenty? I would have a whole electrolyte drink 5/10 minutes before a game.

I might give the multi-vitamin one a go.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:37 am

anj132 wrote:People use to say it's a lack of salt in my diet but I never found eating salty foods helped. What did help was having electrolyte drinks before and during exercise and also a couple of bananas before as well. You say plenty but what is plenty? I would have a whole electrolyte drink 5/10 minutes before a game.

The salty food thing is common, and a slight misconception. Cramps occur (to th ebest of my knowledge) because of an imbalance of salts in the muscles. I believe it can occur with too little, or too much.
Anyway, salts does not neccesarilly mean table salt.
Potassium, magnesium, etc etc are all salts, and you get a mix of these in sports drinks, or through a varied diet.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby njee20 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:57 am

Elete water in your drink works really well for me, better than Zym/Nuun/High5 Zero etc. Or calcium/magnesium/zinc (in one) tablets from Holland & Barrett.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:12 pm

my sister's given me a magnesium spray, which stops cramp prety much immediately for me (seems my cramps are mostly magnesium deficiencies), almost every time. The label's worn off, so I have no idea where she got it.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby lee170 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 07:57 am

I to suffered with cramp playing football matches, towards the end when fatigue kicks in, whilst riding I suffer cramp once tired but it wasn't for the cramps I could carry on for miles more.
I will give the magnesium tablets a go and look up elete water. I have also heard that pickle juice eleviates cramp instantly to, but have never seen it on sale anywhere!

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Oct 11, 2012 08:16 am

Pickled what?
You tend to pickle things in vinegar or alchohol, I think. I can't see how either of those would help.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby lee170 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 08:21 am

Do a google search for cramp whilst cycling, quite a lot mention pickle juice!!
Can't imagine it would taste nice either

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:28 am

Pickled eggs? Pickled gerkins? Pickled chilli? Branston pickle? Pickled beetroot?

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby lee170 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:40 am

No idea, they just say pickle juice, there is a company in the u.s that sell sport pickle juice!

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:52 am

lee170 wrote:there is a company in the u.s that sell sport pickle juice!

Tht doesn't mean it works. I may well mean, however, that they also own a metric fukkton of other "independent" websites, that are basically loosely covered marketing echo-chambers used to evangelise heir wares.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby njee20 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:04 pm

Well don't the US call gherkins 'pickles'?

Gherkin juice sounds vile though!

Tonic water works for some - contains quinine.

Edit: here it is, it is indeed effectively gherkin juice! :shock:

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Sod that.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:14 pm

njee20 wrote:Well don't the US call gherkins 'pickles'?

You're shi**ing me?
What the hell do they call other pickled things then?

Tonic water's a good shout, I keep forgetting it has quinine in it - and that quinine is on of the things that a doctor will prescribe towards bad nighttime cramps.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby Vegman » Mon Oct 15, 2012 20:29 pm

Over the years I have come to the conclusion that If I cramp whist riding it's usually because I've been pushing it a bit hard in too high a gear, or my legs have got too cold. Drinking the right stuff pre, during, and post ride are also important.
For me, if I think its going to be a tough route or I'm going to push it, then pre ride I'll drink a half pint of fully skimmed milk, during the ride my usual fruit juice water and a pinch of salt, luckily for me this combination sits ok in my tum! it may not for all.
Post ride, skimmed milk again usually up to one pint, this can count as part of my evening meal as it's quite filling and I often only get to ride after work and before an evening meal. Fortunately I am not lactose intollerent.

Also absolutely no alchohol.
This works 99% of the time for me, but that 1%..... oh my words it stuffin hurts.
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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby Lagrange » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:20 am

Cramp is due to conductivity probs in the spine. Potassium and Sodium ions as you would get in salt - and electrolytes would improve conductivity. Maybe too much is not good for you. In regards to fitness issues the doc may not be the best person to spk to.

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Re: Cramp whilst riding and after!

Postby danm99 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:25 am

I dont suffer personally but when I used to Scuba dive a lot everyone used to swear by banannas to prevent cramp.


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