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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby LeicesterLad » Tue Aug 21, 2012 15:23 pm

Still think Sky is a sh*t move for JTL - signing up to be somebody elses dogsbody :(

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Richmond Racer » Tue Aug 21, 2012 15:25 pm

rebs wrote:Brian Smith does seem to have a big mouth at present. Talking about alot of stuff that shoudl not be talked about? He must be loving the attention at the moment :P



Think there's a good dollop of that for sure

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Turfle » Tue Aug 21, 2012 16:07 pm

He also said JTL has signed a letter of intent to sign for Sky, so maybe he is just having some fun.

And more interestingly, Endura to merge with NetApp possibly.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/endura- ... rnan-locke

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby TailWindHome » Tue Aug 21, 2012 16:54 pm

LeicesterLad wrote:
frenchfighter wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-points-system-is-ridiculous-says-roche


Cant he have a word with his dad? Or is he still too preoccupied with unzipped jerseys?



Don't understand how a system where you can sign for a different team in August and move in January can ever work.

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby BrianS » Tue Aug 21, 2012 19:20 pm

What should not be talked about?

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Turfle » Tue Aug 21, 2012 19:27 pm

Brian, are you hopeful of hanging on to Rowsell and Thwaites for next year? Any other gossip?

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby RichN95 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 19:41 pm

BrianS wrote:What should not be talked about?

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby lyn1 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 08:41 am

Turfle wrote:Brian, are you hopeful of hanging on to Rowsell and Thwaites for next year? Any other gossip?


While there may be kudos attached to young riders being able to say they are at World Tour teams I'm not convinced its necessarily the best move. They probably end up bottle carrying for much of the time and would struggle to get rides in the really big races. In contrast, at a top Pro Conti team that gets invites to the top races, they would be higher up the pecking order and more likely to get meaningful rides. A top Pro conti team, including an Endura link if that's the way it goes, ,would IMHO be a good move for these lads.

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Cal_Stewart » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:56 am

For JTL IMHO to. He would get to ride some bigger events as leader.
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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Tom BB » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:11 am

Lets not forget that a few years back JTL was riding for Plowman Craven ffs! Even if Endura do merge with NettApp and become a strong Pro Conti outfit, Sky still would be the better option. He may not get a leadership role at a GT there next year, but at least his team will be in all 3 GT's and all the big races guaranteed. He's got a chance to sign for arguably the biggest team in cycling, with the added benefit that it is his home team. I don't think thats too bad for a bloke whom a few years back was riding for teams that wouldn't have had a big enough budget to afford to put one the Sky buses through a service and oil change!

Good luck to him as he will be entering the big time slightly older than most so needs to make the most of his time there.

Also good luck to Brian Smith and the Endura team-it's been great to watch the progress over the last 2 years, and it will be a great shame if the team isn't around next year.

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Turfle » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:21 am

JTL will be 28 by the time next seasonscomes around, so I can see why he'd want the World Tour move. Guaranteed entry to the hilly classics as well as the big stage races, and a little bit of extra money too.

Endura going pro-conti, with either NetApp, or preferably another sponsor would seemingly be ideal for the progress of riders like Rowsell and Thwaites.

It would be a bit of a shame if Endura did merge, and lost some of their branding/identity, but those are the financial realities I guess.

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby rebs » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:02 pm

Netapp-Endura isn't really bad branding if this is the route they go for.

If it was something like Endura-Fred West then I might have issues!

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:04 pm

Turfle wrote:JTL will be 28 by the time next seasonscomes around, so I can see why he'd want the World Tour move. Guaranteed entry to the hilly classics as well as the big stage races, and a little bit of extra money too.

Endura going pro-conti, with either NetApp, or preferably another sponsor would seemingly be ideal for the progress of riders like Rowsell and Thwaites.

It would be a bit of a shame if Endura did merge, and lost some of their branding/identity, but those are the financial realities I guess.



Big wedge of extra money, more like, I doubt any of the Endura riders are living high on the hog. Agree with you that his age and wanting to make the most of the rest of his career would be a major incentive for Pro Tour. Of course he's not going to be a leader straight off - but Conti to Pro Tour is a massive step and he'll have to prove that he can make that transition successfully.

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby disgruntledgoat » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:10 pm

I know a guy who rode full-time for Endura in their first season... He got paid a bike he didn't get to keep and a pile of kit. The kit was custom made, however.
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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby lyn1 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:39 pm

disgruntledgoat wrote:I know a guy who rode full-time for Endura in their first season... He got paid a bike he didn't get to keep and a pile of kit. The kit was custom made, however.

:D :D
That was the year they recruited a team of local Scottish cyclists more familiar with riding National B's and finished at the back of the Tour Series. Certainly before Brian Smith became actively involved.
In the last 3 years they have been the best paid of the British conti teams.

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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby disgruntledgoat » Wed Aug 22, 2012 13:00 pm

He also brought Evan Oliphant to our club 2 up, which I thought was a little unfair.
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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby rozzer32 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 13:26 pm

Katusha have made an offer for Cavendish
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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby TailWindHome » Wed Aug 22, 2012 13:52 pm

rozzer32 wrote:Katusha have made an offer for Cavendish


Maybe they just want their waterbottle back.
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Re: 2013 Transfers

Postby Ms Tree » Wed Aug 22, 2012 20:07 pm

Cycling fever have 'rumour' Tiernan-Locke to AG2R.
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