Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby mfin » Sat Jan 05, 2013 09:12 am

Also, I would have thought any confession would be light on apologies, and also apologies in clear language directed at each named individual he's slandered.

I would have thought a confession would pull around a chunk of public opinion his way, but, those that have heard of LA and also know of 'the people he's trodden on on the way' are in a minority (albeit quite big) that would have to hear the kind of direct apologies I mentioned aaaand full detailed confessions. That minority also includes a lot of press who are up on the story by now and will make the story go on, US press will think twice I think of kicking him after any kind of confession, because of the cancer charity connections.

Can't see LA doing the right thing in the right way for so many reasons, financial, legal, and otherwise.
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby iainf72 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 09:49 am

http://www.nydailynews.com/cyclist-lanc ... 3634#bmb=1

It would be hilarious if Floyd ended up wealthier than Lance.
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Dave_1 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 09:56 am

iainf72 wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/cyclist-lance-armstrong-public-confession-drug-article-1.1233634#bmb=1

It would be hilarious if Floyd ended up wealthier than Lance.


pay back floyd fairness fund folk too.
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Re: Lance Armstrong may confess to doping use.

Postby rebs » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:22 am

Does anyone really care if he does or doesn't now?

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Re: Lance Armstrong may confess to doping use.

Postby ThomThom » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:30 am

Yes.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby TheBigBean » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:27 am

Lance is worth around $125m. Settling with the Times ($1m), SCA ($12m) and Floyd / US ($15m??) won't be much of a dent in his finances. Plus he can then be paid appearance fees and spend years talking about how sad it is that he "had to do it to compete with the others" and "how he wanted to compete fairly, but it wasn't possible" sob sob etc.

The statute of limitations for perjury is still three years. Why do journalists keep writing about it?

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby sherer » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:45 am

Can't see him doing a full confession but I expect it will be something like everyone else in Europe did and it and we had to do the same to compete, saying he still would have won if they were all clean.

Lets wait and see

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby EKIMIKE » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:54 am

TheBigBean wrote:Lance is worth around $125m. Settling with the Times ($1m), SCA ($12m) and Floyd / US ($15m??) won't be much of a dent in his finances.


Being 'worth' something doesn't translate into 'cash in the bank'. For example, I would guess some of that £125m included sponsorship deals which no longer exist and thus cannot be attributed any value.

I doubt he will go bankrupt though. Even if he does he'll soon be raking in money in some form. Public speaking is a likely avenue.

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Re: Lance Armstrong may confess to doping use.

Postby ddraver » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:02 pm

Merge Chasey! Merge!

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Gazzetta67 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:55 pm

Graham Watson is really Moray Gub & Dennis all rolled into one :mrgreen:

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby fidgetyphil » Sat Jan 05, 2013 13:52 pm

The statute of limitations for perjury is still three years

The statute of limitations for a perjury prosecution covers three years after the crime is committed. The law also allows the three years to start again after the perjury has been discovered.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Richmond Racer » Sat Jan 05, 2013 14:08 pm

Just back from a ride. Has he confessed yet? No? Right, well he's got another few mins and then I'm off out again

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby sherer » Sat Jan 05, 2013 14:45 pm

one thing I was wondering was with all the riders testifying to the USADA about drug use at Postal etc, then surely the Grand Jury must have had the same information and possibly more so why was that shut down when it looks likely Government money was used

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby ddraver » Sat Jan 05, 2013 14:49 pm

Either it was political, or because they found out no government money was used....
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby ThomThom » Sat Jan 05, 2013 15:06 pm

It will be one big spin of words made by clever people who know how to deal with the media. Words that will make the most out the very few things left that the americans still like about Lance. You can be sure that everyting is this confession - if there is one... - will be for Lance's own benefit.

There won't be given a single f'uck about the cheated cycling fans, Betsy, Greg, Paul, Walsh and co.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Heavymental » Sat Jan 05, 2013 15:29 pm

ThomThom wrote:It will be one big spin of words made by clever people who know how to deal with the media. Words that will make the most out the very few things left that the americans still like about Lance. You can be sure that everyting is this confession - if there is one... - will be for Lance's own benefit.

There won't be given a single f'uck about the cheated cycling fans, Betsy, Greg, Paul, Walsh and co.


I agree. It won't give anyone a feeling of "Ahhhh. At last. He seems genuinely sorry for being such a penis, I can't believe he cried like that when he apologised to Betsy" when/if he says what he has to say.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby TailWindHome » Sat Jan 05, 2013 16:18 pm

Is RAAM covered by the USADA/UCI ban?
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby philbar72 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 17:30 pm

EKIMIKE wrote:
TheBigBean wrote:Lance is worth around $125m. Settling with the Times ($1m), SCA ($12m) and Floyd / US ($15m??) won't be much of a dent in his finances.


Being 'worth' something doesn't translate into 'cash in the bank'. For example, I would guess some of that £125m included sponsorship deals which no longer exist and thus cannot be attributed any value.

I doubt he will go bankrupt though. Even if he does he'll soon be raking in money in some form. Public speaking is a likely avenue.

agree with all of this, but one question, why would anyone want him to public speak, within the remit of the allegations and their prospective repercussions. if it were me i'd steer well clear.....

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby sherer » Sat Jan 05, 2013 17:39 pm

the articles in the NYTimes mentions the backers of Livestrong. I assume that has suffered badly from all this and maybe a public "we only did what those nasty Europeans were already doing" might help get them back to getting more donations.

He also still wants to run marathons and do triathlons which he can't do while he is banned

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby singlespeedexplosif » Sat Jan 05, 2013 17:44 pm

Whatever happened to Moray Gub anyway? Did he die of a broken heart?


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