Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby bompington » Fri Sep 28, 2012 08:54 am

Richmond Racer wrote:If you're a neutral observer - and this is whom the anti-USADA angle can play to

But they're not playing to the neutral, are they?

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Fri Sep 28, 2012 08:57 am

fair point - but there will be people who cant be bothered to read Hamiton's book, or the associated interviews with him - not that they're pro-Lance, just that they cant be bothered. So depends how the media they do read, position it, I guess.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby bigdawg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 09:14 am

Im really not sure where the UCI are getting their info from (prob LA's infamous spin machine) but it's not making them look particularly clever (again!) - the case files were all in trial format, ie boxes and boxes of transcripts, evidence, witness statements etc..., the USADA have made perfectly clear all that they are doing is transferring this into effectively an easily readable format to send to the UCI, nothing more - they are not still collecting evidence, they may be collating evidence but def not collecting it, they have also given the UCI the dates by which they will receive the file, as the UCI are fully aware of this Im not sure what they hope to gain by this other than trying to smear the USADA, which is really an odd thing to do when they keep saying they are working to get rid of drugs in their sport - they really are looking more and more incompetent

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby sherer » Fri Sep 28, 2012 09:22 am

bigdawg wrote:Im really not sure where the UCI are getting their info from (prob LA's infamous spin machine) but it's not making them look particularly clever (again!) - the case files were all in trial format, ie boxes and boxes of transcripts, evidence, witness statements etc..., the USADA have made perfectly clear all that they are doing is transferring this into effectively an easily readable format to send to the UCI, nothing more - they are not still collecting evidence, they may be collating evidence but def not collecting it, they have also given the UCI the dates by which they will receive the file, as the UCI are fully aware of this Im not sure what they hope to gain by this other than trying to smear the USADA, which is really an odd thing to do when they keep saying they are working to get rid of drugs in their sport - they really are looking more and more incompetent


plus we need to remember the golden rule. Never believe a word Fat Pat says

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby bigdawg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 09:30 am

the questions that should be asked is not why is USADA slow on transferring a room full of boxes into a single file but why on earth are the UCI attacking and trying to undermine an organisation that are doing their utmost to try and stop drugs being used in cycling (as well as other sports) - but it doesnt seem to be the first time he's tried to undermine people trying to support clean racing:

before and during the 2007 UCI Road World Championships in Stuttgart, McQuaid had a feud with Stuttgart's minister of sports, Susanne Eisenmann. She wanted to ban Paolo Bettini because he refused the UCI anti-doping pledge, a plan which backfired. The German broadsheet Süddeutsche Zeitung accused McQuaid of flip-flopping on doping, on one hand maintaining that "there is no doping case of Michael Rasmussen" and defending Bettini, on the other stating he wanted to fine Patrik Sinkewitz and Alexandre Vinokourov. Spiegel magazine doubted McQuaid's commitment against doping.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby itisaboutthebike » Fri Sep 28, 2012 09:42 am

Whose the MAD ONE ?
Bye bye Patty boy - you scumbag !

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Pross » Fri Sep 28, 2012 13:57 pm

dsoutar wrote:This could be intriguing if it happens

http://www.atwistedspoke.com/usadas-tyg ... utte-race/


Be amusing if Tygart got tested at the event and failed :lol:

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby ShinyHelmut » Fri Sep 28, 2012 15:23 pm

Pross wrote:
dsoutar wrote:This could be intriguing if it happens

http://www.atwistedspoke.com/usadas-tyg ... utte-race/


Be amusing if Tygart got tested at the event and failed :lol:


He should be safe, it's an unsanctioned event. :?

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby LangerDan » Sun Sep 30, 2012 16:33 pm

This been done yet?

(courtesy of cyclingnews forum)

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby tarzan13 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 22:13 pm

A bit surprised that info like this is leaking ahead of the formal report (assuming it is true)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report- ... ing-scheme
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12961 ... avits.aspx

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby coriordan » Sun Sep 30, 2012 22:35 pm

if the DoJ are acting as witness to the witness, this looks very bad to LA et co.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby itisaboutthebike » Sun Sep 30, 2012 22:59 pm

MAD...........ONE

You can see why they named now.............
Bye bye Patty boy - you scumbag !

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby DeadCalm » Mon Oct 01, 2012 08:34 am

tarzan13 wrote:A bit surprised that info like this is leaking ahead of the formal report (assuming it is true)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report- ... ing-scheme
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12961 ... avits.aspx


Wonder who the source is?

USA team for the 1998 senior men's road race:

121 Lance Armstrong (USA) 18-09-1971
122 Dylan Casey (USA) 13-04-1970
123 David Clinger (USA) 22-11-1977
124 Christopher Horner (USA) 23-10-1971
125 Trent Klasna (USA) 09-12-1969
126 William Chann McCrae (USA) 11-10-1971
127 Christian Vandevelde (USA) 22-05-1976
128 Jonathan Vaughters (USA) 10-06-1973

Who did David Walsh recently meet up with according to his Twitter?

Anyone up for some simple arithmetic?

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Oct 01, 2012 08:42 am

I believe Walsh and Vaughers enjoyed a fine reunion chez-Vaughters

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby knedlicky » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:22 pm

tarzan13 wrote:A bit surprised that info like this is leaking ahead of the formal report (assuming it is true)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report- ... ing-scheme
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12961 ... avits.aspx

The sentence in the Cycling News link, "There are also reports that the Armstrongs used to call EPO "butter", as they kept it in the butter compartment of their refrigerator" reminds me that Erik Zabel once said 'A racing cyclist's blood isn't buttermilk', although I don't know in what context he said that.
Anyone know?

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby tarzan13 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 14:12 pm

Would be great if there was hard factual evedence of an UCI cover up so that the whole bunch can pack their bags ....

In addition, the "reasoned decision" is believed to contain affidavits from two riders, in which they claim Armstrong told them of a positive doping test at the 2001 Tour de Suisse, which he had "swept under the carpet," with another rider allegedly swearing that Armstrong "told him he could use his influence with UCI to circumvent cycling’s anti-doping laws."

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Crozza » Mon Oct 01, 2012 15:23 pm

the man clearly has no shame :lol:

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Oct 01, 2012 15:27 pm

Crozza wrote:the man clearly has no shame :lol:



Most open and transparent the man's ever been in his life

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Pross » Mon Oct 01, 2012 15:42 pm

Crozza wrote:the man clearly has no shame :lol:


That's got to be worth a lifetime ban from all sports surely?

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Crozza » Mon Oct 01, 2012 15:47 pm

Pross wrote:
Crozza wrote:the man clearly has no shame :lol:


That's got to be worth a lifetime ban from all sports surely?


if you liked that one...


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