Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Crankbrother » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:27 pm

After 10 pages, and I started at year 2000, I got bored and wondered how a guy like Vaughters can still have a role in cycling ... Especially in this new structure he's trying to promote ...

They're all f'cked ... or should be ...

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby lemon63 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:33 pm

Talking about it on Radio 5 Live now.


They had Tony Dolye (ex-pro) on earlier, his view was similar to Ligget's. Still got their heads in the sand.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby SecretSqirrel » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:37 pm

lemon63 wrote:
Talking about it on Radio 5 Live now.


They had Tony Dolye (ex-pro) on earlier, his view was similar to Ligget's. Still got their heads in the sand.


They were just talking to Jeremy Whittle and Simon Brotherton. The tone was not sympathetic!

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:39 pm

TALKSport right now - Gary Imlach being interviewed over the phone

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Heavymental » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:43 pm

I'm only on page 8! Surely there can be no burying of heads in the sand now!?

....The evidence in the case against Lance Armstrong is beyond strong; it is as strong as, or stronger than, that presented in any case brought by USADA over the initial twelve years of USADA’s existence. As explained below, the evidence is overwhelming that Mr. Armstrongand his team director, team doctors, team trainers and teammates cheated throughout the 1998 – 2010 time period...

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:57 pm

Reading through the affidavits.. the accounts by the likes of Dave Zabriskie are almost over-whelming...it was a brutalisation of young athletes in turn...incredibly sad...

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby iainf72 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 18:58 pm

Page107

Bloody hell
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:00 pm

iainf72 wrote:Page107

Bloody hell



Jesus! $1,029,754.31

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby TailWindHome » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:02 pm

iainf72 wrote:Page107

Bloody hell



Put down '50 Shades' and read the USADA report.
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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby oneof1982 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:03 pm

iainf72 wrote:Page107

Bloody hell


How can you read it so fast? Are you on drugs?

Am only on page 45.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby LangerDan » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:04 pm

Page 9:


Paul Scott, an individual residing in Southern California, provided information to USADA Science Director Dr.Daniel Eichner confirming that Mr. Landis had information relevant to USADA’s investigation of doping in the Southern California cycling community and also providing information about the involvement of Mr. Armstrong and Mr. Landis in doping on the U.S. Postal Service Team.On April 12, 2010, after communicating with Mr. Paul Scott about Mr. Landis’information, Dr. Eichner met with Mr. Scott and received additional information from Mr. Scottabout the U.S. Postal Service cycling team doping practices. In this meeting Mr. Scott describedin great detail the doping program on the U.S. Postal Service team, including its use of bloodtransfusions, and the involvement of Mr. Armstrong, Dr. Ferrari, Mr. Bruyneel, Mr. Marti, Dr.del Moral, and a number of riders, including Mr. Landis


Is this the same Paul Scott who ran the Agency for Cycling Ethics and did the internal monitoring programmes for Garmin and , I think, HTC?
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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby iainf72 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:14 pm

Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:14 pm

on TALKSport, both Gary Imlach and a journo from USA Today think that the sponsors will stick with him (both assuming that he wont admit) because they've all got too much invested. In Imlach's words, 'Good luck getting Trek or Nike on the programme'

Nike getting a kicking for turning a blind eye

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby tarzan13 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:24 pm

Only just started reading now, table of content on its own is already pretty impressive....

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby ratsbeyfus » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:29 pm

Hmmmm... what will the UCI have to say about pp51-52:

Armstrong’s suspicious test for EPO at the 2001 Tour of SwitzerlandThe 2001 Tour du Suisse (Tour of Switzerland) was conducted from June 19 – 28, 2001and was won by Lance Armstrong. Armstrong told both Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis thathe had tested positive for EPO at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland and stated or implied that he had been able to make the EPO test result go away.246Armstrong’s conversation with Hamilton wasin 2001, and he told Hamilton “his people had been in touch with UCI, they were going to have ameeting and everything was going to be ok.”247Armstrong’s conversation with Landis was in2002, and Landis recalled Armstrong saying that, “he and Mr. Bruyneel flew to the UCIheadquarters and made a financial agreement to keep the positive test hidden.”248Consistentwith the testimony of both Mr. Hamilton and Mr. Landis, Pat McQuaid, the current president of UCI, has acknowledged that during 2002, Lance Armstrong and Johan Bruyneel visited the UCI headquarters in Aigle in May 2002 and offered at least $100,000 to help the development of cycling.249UCI vehemently denies that this meeting or payment was, as Mr. Armstrong told Mr.Hamilton and Mr. Landis, tied to a cover-up of the 2001 Tour de Suisse sample. In any case,what is important for the case is that substantial parts of Mr. Hamilton’s and Mr. Landis’srecollections of Mr. Armstrong’s statements have been corroborated.As discussed in more detail in Section V(C) below, Dr. Martial Saugy, the Director of theWADA-accredited anti-doping laboratory in Lausanne, Switzerland has confirmed to bothUSADA and the media that his laboratory detected a number of samples in the 2001 Tour deSuisse that were suspicious for the presence of EPO. Dr. Saugy also told USADA that he wasadvised by UCI that at least one of these samples belonged to Mr. Armstrong. Therefore, evenwithout any consideration of the laboratory test results for these samples, as set forth above,Tyler Hamilton’s and Floyd Landis’s testimony regarding Mr. Armstrong’s admission that heused EPO at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland finds substantial corroboration in the statements of both Dr. Martial Saugy and UCI President Pat McQuaid.
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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Turfle » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:42 pm

I had all but blanked out the years Leipheimer was at Rabo.

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby LangerDan » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:45 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:
iainf72 wrote:Page107

Bloody hell




Jesus! $1,029,754.31


Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote an article that said investigators had uncovered that Ferrari had received $465,000 from Armstrong in 2006. Even if LA deferred payment since 2004 to avoid any suspicion that he was still in contact with Ferrari, the figures for 2004 / 5 / 6 don't add up. Is there even more money out there somewhere?
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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby mercsport » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:51 pm

TheStone wrote:Live feed on the Gaurdian!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oc ... -case-live


Thanks for the link.

I think the top comment was a corker, prosaic but apt, "The great irony is America would be thrilled to have a performance-enhanced Postal Service."

We in the UK would also. :D

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Re: Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban,loss of 7 TDF wins

Postby Pollys Bott » Wed Oct 10, 2012 19:55 pm

iainf72 wrote:Big George up next for a tearful confession?


What are Friday night's Euromillions numbers going to be please Iain? :lol:


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