Giro d'Italia 2013

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Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby ThomThom » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:28 pm

Route unveiled today.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-di ... d-in-milan


Stage 14: Image

Stage 15: Image

Stage 18: Image

Stage 19:Image

Stage 20: Image
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby ThomThom » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:30 pm

3405km in total
Avg stage distance: 162.2km
7 MTF
88km of time trials - (17.4km TTT on stage 2, 55.5km ITT on stage 8, 9.4km mountain ITT on stage 18)
Highest alt: Passo dello Stelvio (2758m) on stage 19

Take a look at that beauty that is stage 20.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby greasedscotsman » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:36 pm

It will be rubbish! Just thought I'd be the first to get that in. :wink:

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Turfle » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:45 pm

Not a fan of the short mountain stages, but they're not one climb stages, so not too bad.

Wiggo will like the 55km TT, and the MTT too. Might prove too tempting for him.

Looks like they've designed it to attract Sagan too. Lots of unflat nominal sprint stages.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby ThomThom » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:51 pm

All stage profiles can be found here:

http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Girodit ... 01&lang=en

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Tom BB » Sun Sep 30, 2012 13:01 pm

Could suit Wiggo-the ITT should put J-Rod out of contention. Maybe Evans will fancy a pop at this rather than le tour?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Rick Chasey » Sun Sep 30, 2012 13:06 pm

A lot of short stages with big big mountains.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby FJS » Sun Sep 30, 2012 13:33 pm

There's a LOT of climbing there! Three big, big mountain stages, and plenty of other tricky ones.

Only three real flat sprinters stages!

I'm not too sure this is custom-made for Wiggins - the long ITT should suit him, but there's also some finish climbs with the super-steep stuff he's perhaps not so good at.

Lots of climbing and a good amount of TT kms - will be a complete rider who wins this. But it could turn out to be one of those races of attrition where it's not necessarily the biggest names left standing at the end. Not something for someone riding it in preparation for the TdF.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby ThomThom » Sun Sep 30, 2012 14:18 pm

Whether this is made for Wiggins comes down to the competition.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Pozzi » Sun Sep 30, 2012 14:24 pm

ThomThom wrote:Whether this is made for Wiggins comes down to the competition.


Has Wiggins said he is targeting the Giro and TDF this year, or is he switching his focus more to the Giro anyway? I've wondered what his plans are for 2013. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see him softpedal the giro, even though he does generally race each 1 week stage tour for the win.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby SportiveRater » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:05 pm

Pozzi wrote:
ThomThom wrote:Whether this is made for Wiggins comes down to the competition.


Has Wiggins said he is targeting the Giro and TDF this year, or is he switching his focus more to the Giro anyway? I've wondered what his plans are for 2013. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see him softpedal the giro, even though he does generally race each 1 week stage tour for the win.


The Tim Kerrigan (the Sky training guru) changed the mentality of racing to train - concluded it was pointless as you were spending time riding at a pace and intensity dictated by the peloton and it time was better spent working on specific training plans. If Wiggo rides then it will be to win.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Richmond Racer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:11 pm

If Wiggo rides the Giro, it will be as leader and with the goal to win - but only if the game plan is for Froome to be sole Sky leader for the Tour.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Richmond Racer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:12 pm

and from this route, Acquarone's clearly not bothered about top tier sprinters turning up

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Milton50 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:13 pm

I'm split on what Sky's plans will be for next year. On the one hand they're clearly a team who like to put together a certain formula and stick to it, especially if it's produced results. So you wouldn't be surprised if they turned up at the Tour with exactly the same core team and the same tactics.

On the other hand they have made it so clear that they are focusing their energy on winning the GT's that they may be flexible when it comes to picking the squad for them. So if the Tour route is going to be much more climb heavy and ITT light then they may think about sending Wiggins to the Giro.

The thing with Wiggins though is that he is clearly capable of winning GT's but only if he has a team who can control the pace of the entire race. Sky have got such a strong roster now that they could probably have two seperate squads for the Giro and the Tour and still be pretty much the strongest team in both. You could have Uran/Henao/EBH/Cataldo/Wiggins in one and Rogers/Porte/Thomas/Froome in the other.

When it comes down to it though, would Sky really prevent Wiggins from defending his jersey in the 100th Tour? I'm not sure they could get away with that commercially.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Richmond Racer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:28 pm

I know what you mean about it being the 100th Tour - its makes it a much more significant event than usual.

I think a huge factor will be whether they feel confident in Froome winning the Tour - maybe they'll feel that a fresh Froome would be able to cope better with Contador than Wiggo. And IF - and its a big IF - they can win the Giro, that would be a GT safely in the bag whatever happens at the Tour.

They're certainly continuing to assemble a formidable squad of guys for their goal of multiple GTs. Except for Rasch, every new signing announced so far is a climber, with the others strongly rumoured but not yet confirmed all being climbers as well.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby Richmond Racer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:30 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:and from this route, Acquarone's clearly not bothered about top tier sprinters turning up



Well, shows how little I know. Cav likes the route - after the bizarre cookery show...

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... sotto.html

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby frenchfighter » Sun Sep 30, 2012 15:56 pm

Turfle wrote:Not a fan of the short mountain stages, but they're not one climb stages, so not too bad.

Wiggo will like the 55km TT, and the MTT too. Might prove too tempting for him.

Looks like they've designed it to attract Sagan too. Lots of unflat nominal sprint stages.


I disagree completely with the short mountain stage point - they very often lead to the most exciting racing. This is for numerous reasons: the riders are fresher so have more energy to attack. They are often designed to be able to attack from a reasonable distance out. The longer stages are simply a matter of who has the

There are plenty of examples of fiery short stages. The Veulta had many, but recall l'Alpe de Huez (2011 Tour; 110km) and Blockhaus (Giro 09: http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Girodit ... lt_FIN.jpg) or even stage 11 TdF12 (Rolland win).
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby frenchfighter » Sun Sep 30, 2012 16:07 pm

Note Contador at the presentation. Nibs, Cav and Ryder in that shot too.

Image

Phinney so tall
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When was this done though? Before or after these guys have done 6.5hrs in the rain?!
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby frenchfighter » Sun Sep 30, 2012 16:08 pm

Don't like all the TTing. Rules out too many for GC. Will however mean that the non TT GC riders will likely go for stage wins.

innr ring's piece:
http://inrng.com/2012/09/2013-giro-unveiled/
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2013

Postby inkyfingers » Sun Sep 30, 2012 19:04 pm

frenchfighter wrote:Don't like all the TTing. Rules out too many for GC. Will however mean that the non TT GC riders will likely go for stage wins.

innr ring's piece:
http://inrng.com/2012/09/2013-giro-unveiled/


I see your point, but even with the long TT there are lots of opportunities for the climbers to gain time if they are brave enough. The problem with this years Tour is that there was lots of TTIng and not many really hard mountain stages, this Giro route strikes a much better balance in my opinion.

As for Wiggins, Shane Sutton has said that he should go for the Giro and the Vuelta. Adding a Giro win to his palmares would clearly be a great achievement, but if he doesn't go for the Tour then it might give the impression that he didn't think he could win, might even look like he bottled it. If that comment came from anyone else then you'd just ignore it, but Sutton is a real father figure to Wiggins. I also wondered whether it's an attempt to possibly direct some interest away from him over the winter, we'll see.

There is also the issue with whether Chris Froome can stay away from those weird african diseases and actually perform when Sky really need him to. In the last three years he's only really performed in two races. In a mountain heavy route (which we are assuming the TdF might be) then Froome may look like a better bet to take on Contador, but for all his undoubted talent, he's a bit flakey and has not actually proved himself fully yet. Wiggins is perhaps a less spectacular option, but probably a more predictable one. Wiggins is the big star, Froome (at the moment) is just a promising up and comer, it's a big call to send one of the most well known cyclists in the world off to ride what are still far less prestigious races and take a risk on Froome.

Looking at that route the guy who I thought of was Cadel Evans, would love to see him have a crack at it, would BMC consider that and maybe give the Tour leadership to Van Garderen? I doubt it, but who knows.

I'm going to read Inner Rings blog now, so i'll probably change my opinion after that :wink:
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