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phil liggett

Postby mpd62 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 19:41 pm

seems a bit quite lately....

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Re: phil liggett

Postby dougzz » Fri Oct 12, 2012 19:45 pm

He hitched up to the Lance bandwagon, and for years it worked. What can he really do or say now. Surely his commentary days are done?

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Re: phil liggett

Postby SpecialGuestStar » Fri Oct 12, 2012 20:25 pm

mpd62 wrote:seems a bit quite lately....



a bit quite what...irritating?

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Re: phil liggett

Postby gsk82 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 20:26 pm

dougzz wrote:He hitched up to the Lance bandwagon, and for years it worked. What can he really do or say now. Surely his commentary days are done?


Hopefully, not that I need an alternative to the excellent Dave Harmon.
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Re: phil liggett

Postby liquor box » Fri Oct 12, 2012 21:20 pm

I think he has been losing it for a little while. I dont know if age is catching up to him but he seemed to be making a lot of errors identifying cyclists during the TDF and he did not seem to be as on the ball as in previous seasons.

I hope he is alright and makes a return.

On the other hand as much as I have liked listening to his commentry in the past, I have realised how much crap he talks about compared to the Eurosport commentry teams. This is the first season I have had the opportunity to watch Eurosport in Australia and I have been very impressed, the commentry is entertaining and knowledgable and I like that they will actually talk about what gear is being used, the different bikes and approaches by different teams as opposed to Liggett explaining when a chateau was built. Eurosports biggest downfall is the local TV networks inability to provide decent quality pictures and graphics. It is entertaining though to hear them bag the local content at time though

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Re: phil liggett

Postby rdt » Fri Oct 12, 2012 22:00 pm

If you bring Phil Liggett and Hugh Porter close enough together under just the right conditions (eg. on the same continent), a chain reaction of cliches can flow that's entirely self-sustaining.

I think a dangerous criticality event like that may have occurred this summer, although hopefully not to be repeated.

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Re: phil liggett

Postby Dave_1 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 04:31 am

it saddens me as I liked Phil's commentary in the 1980s and found him a friendly chap to meet but sadly he got too close to Lance and so became part of the problem. He should hang up the mic. Paul too. Graham Watson too.

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Re: phil liggett

Postby Yellow Peril » Sat Oct 13, 2012 07:38 am

Dave_1 wrote:it saddens me as I liked Phil's commentary in the 1980s and found him a friendly chap to meet but sadly he got too close to Lance and so became part of the problem. He should hang up the mic. Paul too. Graham Watson too.


Sorry Dave I'm not ready to go it alone for a wholeTdF without cliches

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Re: phil liggett

Postby The Cyclist of Catan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:01 am

I fully expect my cycling commentators to do a sterling job of work and dig deep into their suitcase of cliches. Hopefully Phil can pass on the well-thumbed script to whomever takes over.
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Re: phil liggett

Postby Mikey23 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 20:30 pm

we must wait for the smoke to be raised over the vatican as the worthy successor is appointed ...

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Re: phil liggett

Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Oct 13, 2012 21:18 pm

If you grew up watching Channel 4s TdF coverage it's hard not to feel a bit sorry for Phil. But he pinned his colours to the Armstrong mast and I reckon he'll now have to go down with that sinking ship. Remember this:
“He told me in a private situation, when I wasn’t working as a journalist. I was sat in the bedroom some years ago, and I asked him point blank, ‘look Lance, the way I talked you up on television, I would have to back off and resign if you one day went positive’. And he looked at me and he said ‘man I’ve seen death in the face and I don’t take drugs.’ And that’s all he said. I have no reason to disbelieve him.”

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Re: phil liggett

Postby mroli » Sat Oct 13, 2012 23:10 pm

See - I dunno about what else he knew, but if Lance lied in his face like that - well, what you gonna do?

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Re: phil liggett

Postby RichN95 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 23:24 pm

In defence of Liggett:

1. He's been involved in cycling for many many years and has done much for it over the years.
2. He's not stupid. He knew what was happening, but he loves the sport and didn't want to abandon it. Neither did we. He kept commentating, just as we kept watching.
3. He worked in Sports TV. That's not investigative journalism. It's entertainment. One time there was a great piece my Ned Boulting about just that in one of the (now defunct?) real peloton podcasts explaining what his job was and some of the frustrations. He said it is partly a 'sales job'.

Having said all that, Phil is 70 next year and he should retire. And when he does he should be remembered for all the good he did for the sport and not his salesmanship for USTV.
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Re: phil liggett

Postby itisaboutthebike » Sun Oct 14, 2012 06:34 am

Having said all that, Phil is 70 next year and he should retire. And when he does he should be remembered for all the good he did for the sport and not his salesmanship for USTV.


B*llocks......................you can make it entertaining and informative w/o having your head stuck up someone's a*se..............

My dad was 84 and he made more sense than some of the drivel Leggup spouted..........
Bye bye Patty boy - you scumbag !

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Re: phil liggett

Postby Bernie S » Sun Oct 14, 2012 08:11 am

He surely must have had some inkling of what the USADA documentaition would say so why on earth did he make that stupid South African radio video

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Re: phil liggett

Postby itisaboutthebike » Sun Oct 14, 2012 08:23 am

He surely must have had some inkling of what the USADA documentaition would say so why on earth did he make that stupid South African radio video


Because he's go his head up Artmstrongs a*se...................................and he's a tw*t. Simple
Bye bye Patty boy - you scumbag !

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Re: phil liggett

Postby mattgardiner » Sun Oct 14, 2012 08:34 am

Leave poor Mr Liggett alone, he's got the perfect defence.

It's been clear to anyone who's listened to him for the past couple of years that he's completely lost touch with reality. Why should his grasp on the circumstantial Armstrong evidence be any different from his grasp on who's who in the peloton?

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Re: phil liggett

Postby Gazzetta67 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 09:57 am

David Duffield for the NEW itv4 commentators chair .....Yay or Nay ? 8)

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Re: phil liggett

Postby itisaboutthebike » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:15 am

David Duffield for the NEW itv4 commentators chair .....Yay or Nay ?


No Me !
Bye bye Patty boy - you scumbag !

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Re: phil liggett

Postby itisaboutthebike » Sun Oct 14, 2012 19:43 pm

circumstantial Armstrong evidence


???? Circumstantial ?
Bye bye Patty boy - you scumbag !


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