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TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:23 am

So can Geraint Thomas follow in the footsteps of Wiggins and win the Tour?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geraint ... -de-france

I'm not so sure. Flanders/Roubaix winner yes. TdF winner, probably not.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby bipedal » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:25 am

greasedscotsman wrote:So can Geraint Thomas follow in the footsteps of Wiggins and win the Tour?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geraint ... -de-france

I'm not so sure. Flanders/Roubaix winner yes. TdF winner, probably not.


We'd have all probably said the same of Wiggins 6 years ago... the best thing about Wiggo's victory could well be that the younger generation of UK riders dare to dream

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby TMR » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:27 am

I'd like to see him win Paris-Roubaix TBH.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:31 am

The Mad Rapper wrote:I'd like to see him win Paris-Roubaix TBH.


Yeah, I went to see Roubaix in 2004 when Hammond got 3rd. Would love to see Thomas win it, that would be great!

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby ALIHISGREAT » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:32 am

bipedal wrote:
greasedscotsman wrote:So can Geraint Thomas follow in the footsteps of Wiggins and win the Tour?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geraint ... -de-france

I'm not so sure. Flanders/Roubaix winner yes. TdF winner, probably not.


We'd have all probably said the same of Wiggins 6 years ago... the best thing about Wiggo's victory could well be that the younger generation of UK riders dare to dream



Yeah.. its about whether he can put in a good few years of work to turn himself into a GC rider.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:52 am

My money's on G and Sky having a bloody good crack at it. Sky are going to put him through the Wiggo regime over the next few years with Kerrison as his coach.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Mad_Malx » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:55 am

EBH closer to Roubaix winner though?

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:05 am

Mad_Malx wrote:EBH closer to Roubaix winner though?


Really? Based on?

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Mad_Malx » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:10 am

^^Ignorance.

I always thought he was stronger, and won something cobbled a few years back.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Tom Butcher » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:17 am

Thomas is a fantastic prospect for Roubaix - at 26 he could (and I think should - but it's his career) have been up there as a contender for several years now. As a potential grand tour winner - not sure - he's shown glimpses of climbing form and presumably Sky will know his figures and how they measure up to what is needed.
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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:27 am

Mad_Malx wrote:^^Ignorance.

I always thought he was stronger, and won something cobbled a few years back.


Yeah, he won Gent Wevelgem 2009, not sure it's a good sign though, Hincapie won it was well! :D

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Rick Chasey » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:08 pm

greasedscotsman wrote:So can Geraint Thomas follow in the footsteps of Wiggins and win the Tour?
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No.

Really no.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:09 pm

Rick Chasey wrote:
greasedscotsman wrote:So can Geraint Thomas follow in the footsteps of Wiggins and win the Tour?
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No.

Really no.



Rationale, Rick, for such adament belief of 'no'?
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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:18 pm

greasedscotsman wrote:So can Geraint Thomas follow in the footsteps of Wiggins and win the Tour?


Sorry everyone, I should have said wheel tracks! :D

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby TMR » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:23 pm

greasedscotsman wrote:Yeah, he won Gent Wevelgem 2009, not sure it's a good sign though, Hincapie won it was well! :D


Steady... :wink:
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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:30 pm

The Mad Rapper wrote:
greasedscotsman wrote:Yeah, he won Gent Wevelgem 2009, not sure it's a good sign though, Hincapie won it was well! :D


Steady... :wink:


S'funny, I would have said that Hincapie would by the end of his career won either Flanders or Roubaix. Shows what I know!

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby pb21 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:34 pm

I wonder how many people would have thought Wiggins was capable of winning the TdF when he was 26?

Also I assume BC/Sky will have a good understanding of Thomas’ physiology and therefore wouldn’t be considering it if they didn’t think it possible.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:42 pm

pb21 wrote:I wonder how many people would have thought Wiggins was capable of winning the TdF when he was 26?

Also I assume BC/Sky will have a good understanding of Thomas’ physiology and therefore wouldn’t be considering it if they didn’t think it possible.



And G makes the accurate point that he's prob ahead of where Brad was at the same age, on the road.

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby greasedscotsman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:55 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:
pb21 wrote:I wonder how many people would have thought Wiggins was capable of winning the TdF when he was 26?

Also I assume BC/Sky will have a good understanding of Thomas’ physiology and therefore wouldn’t be considering it if they didn’t think it possible.



And G makes the accurate point that he's prob ahead of where Brad was at the same age, on the road.


Cool! Will we see Ed Clancy and Steven Burke on the podium with him?

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Re: TdF n' Thomas

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:59 pm

greasedscotsman wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:
pb21 wrote:I wonder how many people would have thought Wiggins was capable of winning the TdF when he was 26?

Also I assume BC/Sky will have a good understanding of Thomas’ physiology and therefore wouldn’t be considering it if they didn’t think it possible.



And G makes the accurate point that he's prob ahead of where Brad was at the same age, on the road.


Cool! Will we see Ed Clancy and Steven Burke on the podium with him?



No idea what you mean, Greased? I did say, on the road.

G's 26. By 26, Wiggo had the following on his palmares, road-wise:

1st Fleche du Sud
Ist ITT - Tour de l'Avenir
1st ITT - Circuit de Lorraine
1st Stage 8 - Tour de l'Avenir

At this point, G's road palmares includes

1st Junior P-R
1st Overall, Points, Under 21 plus a stage - Fleche du Sud
3rd Mountains - Baby Giro
3rd on a stage - Ster Elektroer
Completed 2007 TdF as the Benjamin at 21 (think Brad's first Tour was later in his career)
5th- Coppa Bernocci
1st ITT - Qatar
1st - British Nats RR
Runner-up - British Nats RR
2nd- Stage 3 - TdF
White Jersey Stages 1-7 - TdF
1st Overall, plus 2nd on Stage 3 - Bayern Rundfahrt
2nd - Dwars door Vlaanderen
1st Prologue - Tour of Romandie
2nd Prologue, 2nd ITT Stage 21 - Giro


I'd say that's more than a little ahead of Brad at 26.
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