Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

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Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Fri Feb 01, 2013 22:53 pm

What do you think?
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby TailWindHome » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:01 pm

no.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RichN95 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:05 pm

Maybe, maybe not.
He's around 3/1 with the bookies which seems about right, perhaps a tad short.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:08 pm

3/1 isnt bad odds i guess. Worth a punt even if i dont think he will.
Whos the fav with the bookies then? Contador?
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Danlikesbikes » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:11 pm

If he's got the form of last year & the team support I would say yes, but you never know what form the other top riders are going to be in.
Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RonB » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:12 pm

I've got to admit it I am a big fan. On the plus side, if it was about ability alone he has a chance with the parcour ahead. So, a big yes due to his efforts in last years' Tour and the Vuelta in 2011. He has shown he has the stamina to cope with the 3 weeks racing. However, there are issues about how he might handle the pressure as both team leader for Sky and the excesses of the media circus and finally... there is more competition this time around!

It might all come down to Wiggo and the commitment of the team. Should be fascinating to watch whatever happens.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RichN95 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:15 pm

EPO Delivery Man wrote:3/1 isnt bad odds i guess. Worth a punt even if i dont think he will.
Whos the fav with the bookies then? Contador?

Here you go:

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From www.oddschecker.com
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RonB » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:20 pm

Gotta say that Mr Nibs might be a bit offended by that!
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:20 pm

The problem i have with Froome is more about the management. I dont doubt the engine and the commitment, but the only question mark for me is leader decision making.
Lets say Wiggins is helping him up a mountain and someone attacks, knowing Froome he would probably bolt off after them but Wiggo might be sitting there thinking "leave it Chris", but sees him going after them, so does he call him back?
Does he let him run his race, hes team leader afterall? Even if he knows its not right?
If Wiggo gives him advice are they going to conflict with what Froome wants?

I have a problem with this side of it. If ive made sense :D
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:21 pm

RichN95 wrote:
EPO Delivery Man wrote:3/1 isnt bad odds i guess. Worth a punt even if i dont think he will.
Whos the fav with the bookies then? Contador?

Here you go:

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From http://www.oddschecker.com


Superb thanks Rich
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:22 pm

RonB wrote:Gotta say that Mr Nibs might be a bit offended by that!


I was thinking exactly that!
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RichN95 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:26 pm

RonB wrote:Gotta say that Mr Nibs might be a bit offended by that!

This is why: http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/ ... our_262043
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Pross » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:28 pm

I'll take Wiggo at those odds. Froome will have at least one bad day (just a guess and opinion!)
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:28 pm

RichN95 wrote:
RonB wrote:Gotta say that Mr Nibs might be a bit offended by that!

This is why: http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/ ... our_262043



Sounds like Wiggins v Nibali round 2 at the Giro then

Cant wait!
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RonB » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:31 pm

And that is why I will never be a gambler or a bookie. Thanks Rich :oops:
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby LeePaton » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:48 pm

No.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby nathancom » Sat Feb 02, 2013 00:14 am

If Wiggins can help him keep his head then maybe. Froome has enough in his TT to hurt a clean Contador.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby ElLawro » Sat Feb 02, 2013 02:25 am

Froome or Wiggins, are both a 'no' :roll:
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby OCDuPalais » Sat Feb 02, 2013 02:56 am

ElLawro wrote:Froome or Wiggins, are both a 'no' :roll:


Exactly.

Froome won't ever seriously challenge The True Big-Hitters for any GT podium place
and
Wiggins won't ever improve on his fluke 4th place in '09 Tour (except, maybe, if Contador or Schleck get busted for doping and Bradley gets bumped up to 3rd - but that's a long shot that he shouldn't hold his breath about)


C'mon, get real: these are secondary riders in GB colours that should've stuck to MTB and track, respectively.
Froome will never challenge in the TTs and I can't see Wiggins ever being in yellow in the high mountains.
Not only that, can you ever imagine a serious GT squad being set up around either of those 2? Way too risky...



Oh wait, hang on... this is still 2010, isn't it?
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby SecretSqirrel » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:31 am

EPO Delivery Man wrote:The problem i have with Froome is more about the management. I dont doubt the engine and the commitment, but the only question mark for me is leader decision making.
Lets say Wiggins is helping him up a mountain and someone attacks, knowing Froome he would probably bolt off after them but Wiggo might be sitting there thinking "leave it Chris", but sees him going after them, so does he call him back?
Does he let him run his race, hes team leader afterall? Even if he knows its not right?
If Wiggo gives him advice are they going to conflict with what Froome wants?

I have a problem with this side of it. If ive made sense :D


It is not unusual for teams to have a Leader, as in the main contender, and a Captain that calls the tactics and organises the the team on the road.
If this is agreed up front it could work for Sky, in answer to your query above.
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