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Sailingalong
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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:02 am

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:06 am

Phil_D wrote:So it is the round thing underneath the nut in the picture that is getting in the way?

Yes Phil D. because it goes over the nut.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby styxd » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:08 am

the round thing under the nut looks like it is below where the teeth are on the lock ring, so I can't see why it matters

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BigLee1
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Re: Really struggling

Postby BigLee1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:10 am

when you put the tool in the splines pop your quick release axle back thru and tighten it up a bit, it`ll stop the tool from coming off when you`re hefting a spanner on it

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Re: Really struggling

Postby nicklouse » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:14 am

Sailingalong wrote:Image

yep not the best tool. the walls are a bit thicker than are needed.

I would LBS it and see what tool they have that fits and buy that.

shimano/park ones tend to have the thinner walls.
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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:17 am

BigLee1 wrote:when you put the tool in the splines pop your quick release axle back thru and tighten it up a bit, it`ll stop the tool from coming off when you`re hefting a spanner on it

The quick release axle isn't long enough to go through and outside of the shimano tool. I suppose it would be, if I could get the tool in far enough but it wont go.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby BigLee1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:21 am

what you need is to pop to your lbs and get them to do it and see if the tool you have is actually the right one

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:22 am

It's a Bike tool by the way.
Bike tool BT 410 By Union.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Ricey155 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:32 am

your using the chain grabber tool as well ?? so you can actually break the seal ??

tool is right shitmano . sram removing tool

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:51 am

Ricey155 wrote:your using the chain grabber tool as well ?? so you can actually break the seal ??

tool is right shitmano . sram removing tool


Errr well no :oops: I haven't got one but I haven't got that far. Thought I'd get to that once I got the remover in proper.
Now...don't shout at me. :(

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Phil_D » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:54 am

Sailingalong wrote:
Ricey155 wrote:your using the chain grabber tool as well ?? so you can actually break the seal ??

tool is right shitmano . sram removing tool


Errr well no :oops: I haven't got one but I haven't got that far. Thought I'd get to that once I got the remover in proper.
Now...don't shout at me. :(


When you do, see if you can arrange it so something like a vice is gripping the tool and enabling you to exert downward pressure on the wheel whilst turning it. This will make the tool stick in the teeth better, and increase your leverage to make it a bit easier.

Sailingalong
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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:01 pm

Okay. Thanks for all your help.
Less than 1mm to go at doesn't look right to me though. Just watched another vid and the remover went all the way in.
I shall persevere.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby waughie » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:14 pm

Is that the correct removal tool? There are two types, one for cassettes and one for freewheels.

Yours looks more like a freewheel one.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby BigLee1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:17 pm

you`ll struggle even more cos you haven`t got the right tools for the job, lbs asap!!!

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:24 pm

Okay.
Just tried it the vice way, but can't get enough remover in so I give up.
Thanks all

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Re: Really struggling

Postby onbike 1939 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:26 pm

Is there any muck inside causing the tool not to go in its full length.?

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Re: Really struggling

Postby Sailingalong » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:58 pm

None at all.
Just ordered another removing tool to see if that works.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby TheRealGuybrush » Sun Mar 10, 2013 19:45 pm

If you've got a vice, clamp the lockring tool into it and set the wheel on top. Then as you pull the cassette with the chainwhip, press down on the hub with your other hand. This should help the splines engage.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby JGSI » Sun Mar 10, 2013 19:49 pm

If you do a lot of swapping then this http://www.probikekit.com/uk/pro-casset ... tAodCkQAtg

oh, they dont call it a 'safety' spline out of a sense of humour by the way, once you have nearly had your hand off using that old tool, you'll be surprised how far you can throw it.

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Re: Really struggling

Postby islandman » Sun Mar 10, 2013 19:57 pm

You've definitely got heads scratching here, are you sure the tools not bottoming out on that axle nut ? Could you put some paper on the axle nut and see if it's marked by the tool when inserted fully, if it is there's the problem. Maybe possible there's a spacer missing from behing the cassette and it went on further than intended ? You may have a crappy tool and the LBS could be the place to go. Good luck mate.


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