Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

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Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Chris Bass » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:22 am

Hi

my resting heart rate is usually around 40-45 bpm, i've gone on a few sites to see hwat my max heart rate should be and they all just ask for age (i'm 28 btw!) and say it should be about 180 bpm. given that this is over 4 times my resting heart rate is this accurate?

i'm very new to all this heart rate stuff but just got a turbo trainer and want to start monitoring it more.
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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby danowat » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:33 am

Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Trev The Rev » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:48 am

Chris Bass wrote:Hi

my resting heart rate is usually around 40-45 bpm, i've gone on a few sites to see hwat my max heart rate should be and they all just ask for age (i'm 28 btw!) and say it should be about 180 bpm. given that this is over 4 times my resting heart rate is this accurate?

i'm very new to all this heart rate stuff but just got a turbo trainer and want to start monitoring it more.


I have used a heart rate monitor on and off since 1981. As time goes by the more I know heart rate really is not worth worrying about. As a general rule my resting heart rate is lower the fitter I am but my max heart rate is stable, only the loss of 6 to 10 beats in 30 years. There are so many factors which affect it. Coffee, tiredness, training fatigue, stress, temperature, alcohol, food etc etc. 'Feel' is far more important. Power & Feel is best.

Everyone's max heart rate is different, don't go by age, you must test properly to establish your max.

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Trev The Rev » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:56 am

danowat wrote:Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.


If someone asks a question politely it deserves a polite answer, the guy said he was new to this subject.

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby jibberjim » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:57 am

It's pretty irrelevant (not completely since some of the physical characteristics of your heart that gives you a low resting HR (yours is not that low really) also can limit your maximum HR.

Over 4 times your resting is very, very normal in a fit individual.
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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Chris Bass » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:58 am

danowat wrote:Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.


sorry, as i said i'm new to all this!

thanks for the advice, maybe i wont worry about it too much then!
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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Trev The Rev » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:04 pm

Chris Bass wrote:
danowat wrote:Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.


sorry, as i said i'm new to all this!

thanks for the advice, maybe i wont worry about it too much then!


Chris,

No need to apologise to Danowat - he belongs on timetrialling forum.

Trev.

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby danowat » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:05 pm

Chris Bass wrote:
danowat wrote:Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.


sorry, as i said i'm new to all this!

thanks for the advice, maybe i wont worry about it too much then!


If you search, you will see this has been discussed, at length, many, many times.

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Chris Bass » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:34 pm

sorry, i dont really come on this section of the forums too often so didnt realise.
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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby ajmitchell » Sat Nov 10, 2012 09:41 am

HI Chris,

There is only a weak relationship between resting and max HR. In general a trained individual will have a low resting HR and more capacity to at any given HR (because of better stroke volume, lower capillary resistance etc) so in general resting HR is associated with low HR during "hard work". Although max HR is probably fairly static (by definition)....in my opinion hard training does positively influence perceived maximum heart rate. For more on this see Sports Medicine, Volume 29, Number 1, 1 January 2000 , pp. 13-26(14).

Theres also a nice review online here http://www.cptips.com/hrmntr.htm (extracted below)

"With every heart beat (contraction of the heart pump), a certain amount of blood (stroke volume) is pushed through the system. The contraction frequency of the heart is the heart rate (HR). The amount of blood moved to the cells of the body every minute is the product of the heart rate and stroke volume (HR x strove volume).

With physical activity (exercise) more oxygen is required by the muscle cells, and the circulatory system responds by increasing the heart rate (and the cardiac output). With aerobic training, the actual amount of blood pumped per heart beat (stroke volume) increases and the efficiency of the exchange process at the capillary level improves. The result is a lower heart rate for any level of physical activity in the trained versus the untrained individual. Thus aerobic training benefits include:

a lower resting heart rate
a lower heart rate for a specific level of exertion
an increased exercise capacity at an individual's maximum heart rate. "

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Chris Bass » Sun Nov 11, 2012 17:55 pm

thanks for that, that's pretty interesting.

so it may suggest that if my heart rate is low I'd need to 'work harder' to get a higher heart rate.

so is it best for me to monitor my heart rate at different levels of work and then try to maintain that rather than aim for some figure set as a 'standard' for everyone?
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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby ajmitchell » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:31 am

>>so it may suggest that if my heart rate is low I'd need to 'work harder' to get a higher heart rate

yes although its usually phrased as you can work harder for any given heart rate because your efficiency/ability is likely to be high. Although note, some people have consistutionally low resting HR without being particular fit.

>>so is it best for me to monitor my heart rate at different levels of work and then try to maintain that rather than aim for some figure set as a 'standard' for everyone?

set personal goals, yes

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Chris Bass » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:08 pm

yeah, welll my mum also has a low resting heart rate so i think its probably naturally quite low anyway but i think i am pretty fit in the grand scheme of things!
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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby lef » Thu Nov 15, 2012 20:43 pm

danowat wrote:
Chris Bass wrote:
danowat wrote:Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.


sorry, as i said i'm new to all this!

thanks for the advice, maybe i wont worry about it too much then!


If you search, you will see this has been discussed, at length, many, many times.


As are most other things on this forum but so what. No need to be a tit about it.

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby danowat » Thu Nov 15, 2012 20:53 pm

lef wrote:
danowat wrote:
Chris Bass wrote:
danowat wrote:Jesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.


sorry, as i said i'm new to all this!

thanks for the advice, maybe i wont worry about it too much then!


If you search, you will see this has been discussed, at length, many, many times.


As are most other things on this forum but so what. No need to be a tit about it.


At least I posted some relevant information along with being a "tit", unlike your post........ :roll:

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby Stevie2wheels » Wed Nov 28, 2012 15:54 pm

[quoteJesus............

At the risk of repeating this for the millionth time........

Your max has little to do with the resting HR, your max is NOT derived from some equation, it's unique to you, and the only way to find it is to do a max HR test.][/quote]

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Re: Does a low resting heart rate effect max heart rate?

Postby mamba80 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 08:47 am

If you are going to use MHR then as Trev says also use some other means of effort as well, speed or rate of perceived excertion (RPE)
HR can be quite finicky, so dont get too hung up on the exact number of beats, % of MHR is easier to follow.
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