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Postby Jonny_Trousers » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:55 am

Without boring you with the reasons why, I am now very seriously considering buying an Equilibrium frame and fork combo and notice, when reading member reviews here, that a chap called Handlebarcam states you can comfortably go for a shorter frame with the geometry being the way that it is and I was wondering if you guys would support this. The toptube length has a difference of only 1.3cm between the 54 and the 56 and I am somewhat torn between which to go for.

From what I have read it seems like a fantastic machine and is so much better value than Condor's Fratello, which was my original thought.

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Postby Sketchley » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:02 pm

Evans stock them, if they don't have the bike in they will get it delivered to store so you can test ride. Tell them you want to try both sizes.....
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Postby UndercoverElephant » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:08 pm

Not sure about that, the top-tube length is what I always look for, and I ended up getting the 60cm, which most shops would tell me is a size too big. It depends on your proportions, I have a long torso and relatively short legs.

I do agree that it's a wonderful machine. Realcycles.com gave me 11% off the F&F when I bought mine, which makes it truly stonking value.

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Postby Jonny_Trousers » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:46 pm

Thanks lads! I think the test ride is the way forwards and I see Realcycles are still doing that offer so thanks for the tip.

It sounds like I am the opposite to you UE in that, although I am a fairly standard 5' 10 I have sloping shoulders and can get quite tense in them and my neck if I have to overstretch.

Do you need specific long-reach brake callipers for the Equilibrium? I have a set of Tektros from my old Pearson Touche, but I'm not a huge fan of them.

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Postby UndercoverElephant » Wed Jun 01, 2011 13:12 pm

Jonny_Trousers wrote:Thanks lads! I think the test ride is the way forwards and I see Realcycles are still doing that offer so thanks for the tip.

It sounds like I am the opposite to you UE in that, although I am a fairly standard 5' 10 I have sloping shoulders and can get quite tense in them and my neck if I have to overstretch.

Do you need specific long-reach brake callipers for the Equilibrium? I have a set of Tektros from my old Pearson Touche, but I'm not a huge fan of them.


Yup, long-reach are required. I have Miche ones I got from Wiggle for £17 the pair, and I like them a lot. They are easily adjusted on the road, and have quick releases. ( http://www.wiggle.co.uk/miche-performan ... lliper-set ) Though as with all brakes, replace the stock pads straight off.

You'll also need cable barrel-adjusters and a cable guide for the bottom bracket shell, as the frame comes without. It did have a seat-post collar (black), but I used a different 29.8 mm band, because I'd already bought it, and it was silver. You'll also need a FD clamp, if you don't happen to have a 28.6 mm one. I have a Campagnolo Record headset on mine, because I'm a bit of a tart and it's really, very lovely. The rest of the build came off the dead Orbea, so all in all it was very reasonable.

I think it's worth trying them at Evans, if you can for the sizing. I would say that it's a superbly comfortable bike, I could ride it all day. Realcycles took about a week to deliver.

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Postby Jonny_Trousers » Wed Jun 01, 2011 13:38 pm

UndercoverElephant wrote:
Jonny_Trousers wrote:Thanks lads! I think the test ride is the way forwards and I see Realcycles are still doing that offer so thanks for the tip.

It sounds like I am the opposite to you UE in that, although I am a fairly standard 5' 10 I have sloping shoulders and can get quite tense in them and my neck if I have to overstretch.

Do you need specific long-reach brake callipers for the Equilibrium? I have a set of Tektros from my old Pearson Touche, but I'm not a huge fan of them.


Yup, long-reach are required. I have Miche ones I got from Wiggle for £17 the pair, and I like them a lot. They are easily adjusted on the road, and have quick releases. ( http://www.wiggle.co.uk/miche-performan ... lliper-set ) Though as with all brakes, replace the stock pads straight off.

You'll also need cable barrel-adjusters and a cable guide for the bottom bracket shell, as the frame comes without. It did have a seat-post collar (black), but I used a different 29.8 mm band, because I'd already bought it, and it was silver. You'll also need a FD clamp, if you don't happen to have a 28.6 mm one. I have a Campagnolo Record headset on mine, because I'm a bit of a tart and it's really, very lovely. The rest of the build came off the dead Orbea, so all in all it was very reasonable.

I think it's worth trying them at Evans, if you can for the sizing. I would say that it's a superbly comfortable bike, I could ride it all day. Realcycles took about a week to deliver.


Thanks again!

I read somewhere that Shimano do a quality, decent-priced long-reach brake, but as I will be putting my Campagnolo Daytona (10 year-old Centaur) groupset on it might be sacrilege to mix the two. I'll check out your recommendation.

I'm not experienced with building bikes myself, but my brother and nephew are, and as they are coming down to stay in a couple of weeks I might see if I can get everything together by then. I'll fire off an email to Realcycles.

I think what attracts me most to the Equilibrium is that it sounds like it is a comfortable, fast all-rounder. I've discovered that I just don't have the time for long social rides and want to make the most of my commute (no matter what the weather) together with quick training blasts when the mood takes me.

I'll pop into my local Evans and book up a cheeky test ride.

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Postby UndercoverElephant » Wed Jun 01, 2011 14:12 pm

Jonny_Trousers wrote:I think what attracts me most to the Equilibrium is that it sounds like it is a comfortable, fast all-rounder. I've discovered that I just don't have the time for long social rides and want to make the most of my commute (no matter what the weather) together with quick training blasts when the mood takes me.


It certainly seems to tick all of those boxes. Personally, I couldn't be happier with it.

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Postby The Fuggler » Mon Jun 13, 2011 14:53 pm

I've been test riding all sorts of bikes recently - some road (Trek 1.5, 2.3, Giant TCR 1, Equilibrium 10, Specialized Allez & Secteur), some mountain (Giant Anthem X, Genesis Core, Boardman Pro HT) - as well as taking my Cotic Roadrat out for a few spins.

Despite my new bike indecision (can you tell?!), no matter what I ride and no matter how expensive it is, I keep coming back to the Equilibrium - it's the one ride that I had the most fun on. I'd love a 20, as I love the 105 kit, but it's probably just a bit too expensive at the moment, and with 100 quid off the 10, it is just too tempting...

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Postby UndercoverElephant » Mon Jun 13, 2011 15:01 pm

Dooooo iiiiittttt!!!!! :twisted:

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Postby The Fuggler » Mon Jun 13, 2011 15:04 pm

UndercoverElephant wrote:Dooooo iiiiittttt!!!!! :twisted:


:D I think you're the guy sitting on my left shoulder. Alas, my wife is sitting on my right...!

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Postby UndercoverElephant » Mon Jun 13, 2011 15:10 pm

The Fuggler wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:Dooooo iiiiittttt!!!!! :twisted:


:D I think you're the guy sitting on my left shoulder. Alas, my wife is sitting on my right...!


You want me to distract her while you click the buy button? To be fair, mine's roughly the spec of the 10, as I built it from the frame and forks. Tiagra is really very good.

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Postby The Fuggler » Mon Jun 13, 2011 15:18 pm

UndercoverElephant wrote:You want me to distract her while you click the buy button? To be fair, mine's roughly the spec of the 10, as I built it from the frame and forks. Tiagra is really very good.


Hehehe... As it happens, I have to go to the solicitor tomorrow (the two things are not related!), who happens to be less than 50 yards from Evans....

One more test ride....!

:D

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Postby phy2sll2 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 07:46 am

Fate:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genesis-Equilibrium-/170651244708?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27bb9b58a4#ht_1370wt_1139

He is "students who don't have time for using it" but the bike is "costume made".

I don't see him passing his English degree somehow... :lol:

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Postby Jonny_Trousers » Tue Jun 14, 2011 09:28 am

phy2sll2 wrote:Fate:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genesis-Equilibrium-/170651244708?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27bb9b58a4#ht_1370wt_1139

He is "students who don't have time for using it" but the bike is "costume made".

I don't see him passing his English degree somehow... :lol:


Ha! I did actually contact him about that bike and it all sounds decidedly dodgy. Think I'll steer clear.

There is a very pretty 58 with SRAM groupset listed on Ebay too, though. Contrary to what I had heard (and mentioned above), I've discovered that Equilibriums are on the shorter side of their stated size and so one size up may make sense.

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Postby phy2sll2 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:02 am

Jonny_Trousers wrote:
phy2sll2 wrote:Fate:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genesis-Equilibrium-/170651244708?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27bb9b58a4#ht_1370wt_1139

He is "students who don't have time for using it" but the bike is "costume made".

I don't see him passing his English degree somehow... :lol:


Ha! I did actually contact him about that bike and it all sounds decidedly dodgy. Think I'll steer clear.


Yup, suspect that's probably a good move.

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Postby The Fuggler » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:20 am

Jonny_Trousers wrote:There is a very pretty 58 with SRAM groupset listed on Ebay too, though. Contrary to what I had heard (and mentioned above), I've discovered that Equilibriums are on the shorter side of their stated size and so one size up may make sense.


I'm 5' 10" (32 inside leg) and the 56cm was perfect for me. I don't have particularly long arms though and I do like a compact frame and riding position. Still best to ride one to check obviously....

Mind you, having looked at that 58cm on eBay, I might be prepared to spend a few nights on the rack to stretch out a bit. Looks a beauty!

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Postby Jonny_Trousers » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:58 am

The Fuggler wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:You want me to distract her while you click the buy button? To be fair, mine's roughly the spec of the 10, as I built it from the frame and forks. Tiagra is really very good.


Hehehe... As it happens, I have to go to the solicitor tomorrow (the two things are not related!), who happens to be less than 50 yards from Evans....

One more test ride....!

:D


When I was talking to them about it in Evans they were very quick to offer a price match with anyone on the web. They were also offering 0% credit.

I've got some nice Campag bits to use so will probably head down the frame and fork only route.

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Postby The Fuggler » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:02 pm

Evans were good for me on pricing too. I just missed out on them price matching Stif at 800 quid for the 10. I'm hoping Stif get some back in shortly so I can get Evans to price match again (although 900 quid still isn't bad).

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Postby Jonny_Trousers » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:45 pm

The Fuggler wrote:Evans were good for me on pricing too. I just missed out on them price matching Stif at 800 quid for the 10. I'm hoping Stif get some back in shortly so I can get Evans to price match again (although 900 quid still isn't bad).


I was offered the twenty for £1,100, which sounded pretty good.

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Postby The Fuggler » Tue Jun 14, 2011 13:41 pm

Jonny_Trousers wrote:I was offered the twenty for £1,100, which sounded pretty good.


That is good - who did Evans match for that?


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