Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby spasypaddy » Wed Dec 19, 2012 15:34 pm

BigMat wrote:Just out of interest, what is so amazing about the Nexus 7? What can it do that you can't do on a laptop / smartphone? I've got my wife one for Christmas, would be nice to know what the best stuff it can do is so that I can make sure she really appreciates it!

its the size, usability, and sheer delight to use it that makes it for me.

i had a hp touchpad (9.1inch) device and it was just so heavy and bulky that i never used it, plus android wasnt properly supported on it so it was constantly crashing/errors. The nexus is just a fantastic bit of kit.

i also have an android phone so im a bit of an android geek which helps

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby Ouija » Wed Dec 19, 2012 15:41 pm

Daz555 wrote:
Ouija wrote:You don't have to have a google account to use the Nexux 7?

It creates hassle if you don't have one. You need it for the Play store for example.


So it's locked into Google like the Kindles locked into Amazon.

Make a point of disabling all Javascript capability for anything coming from Google on my desktop computer because it just keeps everything clean (no tracking or google sponsored advertising on every site) and refuse to let Google have any of my personal details for similar reasons. Think i might end up going with the Kindle Fire then, rather than the Nexus.

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby bompington » Wed Dec 19, 2012 15:43 pm

Ouija wrote:
Daz555 wrote:
Ouija wrote:You don't have to have a google account to use the Nexux 7?

It creates hassle if you don't have one. You need it for the Play store for example.


So it's locked into Google like the Kindles locked into Amazon.

Make a point of disabling all Javascript capability for anything coming from Google on my desktop computer because it just keeps everything clean (no tracking or google sponsored advertising on every site) and refuse to let Google have any of my personal details for similar reasons. Think i might end up going with the Kindle Fire then, rather than the Nexus.

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby pangolin » Wed Dec 19, 2012 15:52 pm

I test on all of these at work. Don't get the kindle fire without using one, it really is horrible. I keep wanting to go back to a home screen that isn't there. It's like you're stuck in the app store the whole time.

Playbook is awful as well.

For this size I think ipad mini wins, then nexus 7, then samsung 7, then the other 2 way way down.

Once price comes into it though, nexus wins.
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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby vermin » Wed Dec 19, 2012 15:57 pm

pangolin wrote:I test on all of these at work. Don't get the kindle fire without using one, it really is horrible. I keep wanting to go back to a home screen that isn't there. It's like you're stuck in the app store the whole time.

Playbook is awful as well.

For this size I think ipad mini wins, then nexus 7, then samsung 7, then the other 2 way way down.

Once price comes into it though, nexus wins.


Until/unless Samsung releases a Note 7.

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby Paul E » Wed Dec 19, 2012 16:40 pm

vermin wrote:
pangolin wrote:I test on all of these at work. Don't get the kindle fire without using one, it really is horrible. I keep wanting to go back to a home screen that isn't there. It's like you're stuck in the app store the whole time.

Playbook is awful as well.

For this size I think ipad mini wins, then nexus 7, then samsung 7, then the other 2 way way down.

Once price comes into it though, nexus wins.


Until/unless Samsung releases a Note 7.


Samsung will put touchwiz on it which I find really awful, the pure version of android is much better and now they have sorted out the stuttering with scrolling it's much niver to use overall.

The nexus 7 just fits right in the hand, I had an ipad one and I don't think I would go back to a bigger screen tablet now
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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby pangolin » Wed Dec 19, 2012 16:44 pm

Yeah if I got a Samsung 7 I would root it and put good old jellybean on instead.
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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby Redjeep! » Wed Dec 19, 2012 22:26 pm

They wouldn't be much craic here in ireland as they don't work.

I wanted one, but found out that a) Amazon won't sell you one in Ireland and b) a lot of the content won't work with an Irish address.

Now there's probably ways around all of this, but I couldn't really be bothered finding out so bought a couple of Google N7's instead (prezzies, one for 2'nd son, one for me :D ).

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby spasypaddy » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:54 am

pangolin wrote:I test on all of these at work. Don't get the kindle fire without using one, it really is horrible. I keep wanting to go back to a home screen that isn't there. It's like you're stuck in the app store the whole time.

Playbook is awful as well.

For this size I think ipad mini wins, then nexus 7, then samsung 7, then the other 2 way way down.

Once price comes into it though, nexus wins.

yep the homescreen thing confused me. but for my mother being locked in and not having the ability to tinker with stuff is perfect.

me?

im running paranoid android on my S3, and my Nexus 7 is rooted and im probably going to put paranoid android on that as well

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby DonDaddyD » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:53 am

Le Sigh:

Please read - From Techradar: http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... 12-1117715

Techradar: concerning the Nexus 7 wrote:It's been an interesting year for Google.

Android stormed the smartphone charts but didn't do so well in tablets, so Google stepped in and made arguably the best non-Apple tablets around.


And more specifically:

Highs and Lows of Google 2012 wrote:3. The Nexus 7

Google's Android world domination plan hit a hurdle with small tablets: they were crap.

Highs and lows for Google in 2012Fed up with rubbish Android tablets, Google decided to design its own

Google rather wisely decided to take matters into its own hands, and the resulting device - the Nexus 7 - was, and is, brilliant. It's as cheap as a Kindle Fire but considerably more powerful.


And some reviews:

Kindle Fire HD: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac ... 316/review
iPad mini: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac ... cleContent
Nexus 7: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac ... 040/review

And so that you can cross reference:

Kindle Fire HD: http://www.mobilegazette.com/amazon-kin ... le-fire-hd
iPad mini: http://www.mobilegazette.com/apple-ipad ... x10x23.htm
Nexus 7: http://www.mobilegazette.com/google-nex ... x06x27.htm

If I didn't want the iPad mini (mostly down to price and the fact that no retina display, amongst other things, makes it feel like too much of a comprimise compared to its bigger brother the iPad 4) then I would get the Nexus. This isn't to say that the iPad mini isn't good, it is. It is just not for me.

I like Android OS without all the overlays that Samsung (touchwiz), HTC (Sense) and others (like the Kindle) add onto the user interface. This is the core reasons why Google went ahead and showed the market how to make a Android derived tablet. Other manufacturers were doing to much to add onto the operating system and it just slowed/complicated processes.

It is also a cast iron fact that the Android interface allows you to customise far more than Apple's own offering. Having said that, if you have your heart set on Apple iPad/Pod/Phone and are given a Nexus, then its not an Apple ietc and never will.

Kindle would be my third choice. I don't understand why its not open to the Android market, now known as Goole Play - which these days has as many apps as the iStore.

Also, and I haven't checked by if the Nexus has access to things like Goolge Now then I'll probably will get one and I didn't want one until I wrote this post and read more about it in detail.
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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby Il Principe » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:59 am

DonDaddyD wrote:If I didn't want the iPad mini (mostly down to price and the fact that no retina display, amongst other things, makes it feel like too much of a comprimise compared to its bigger brother the iPad 4) then I would get the Nexus. This isn't to say that the iPad mini isn't good, it is. It is just not for me.


I swapped from an iPad to an iPad mini and prefer it. Don't notice the lack of retina TBH, screen is to small for it to make a difference. The retina display on my macbook pro is a thing of beauty though.

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby DonDaddyD » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:11 pm

Il Principe wrote:
DonDaddyD wrote:If I didn't want the iPad mini (mostly down to price and the fact that no retina display, amongst other things, makes it feel like too much of a comprimise compared to its bigger brother the iPad 4) then I would get the Nexus. This isn't to say that the iPad mini isn't good, it is. It is just not for me.


I swapped from an iPad to an iPad mini and prefer it. Don't notice the lack of retina TBH, screen is to small for it to make a difference. The retina display on my macbook pro is a thing of beauty though.

I'm not buying the "screen is too small for it to make difference" argument - you're not the first. Retina display made a gargantuan difference between the display on the 3Gs and the 4G onwards.... and those screens are 3.5inches, half the size of the iPad mini

I do need to see these retina displays on the macbook's, people keep telling me about them as though they're a visual symphony of perfection and glory...
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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby spasypaddy » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:49 pm

DonDaddyD wrote:Also, and I haven't checked by if the Nexus has access to things like Goolge Now then I'll probably will get one and I didn't want one until I wrote this post and read more about it in detail.

Of course it can. it can do anything that android can do.

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby mattwood » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:39 pm

Having become irritated beyond belief with Apple, I have left the iPhone camp and bought a Nexus 4, which is astonishingly good. This has made me drop any idea of getting an iPad and going for the (much cheaper) Nexus 7 or maybe the Nexus 10 for my general computing needs and then migrate from my 1st generation MacBook to a better specced, cheaper, probably windows 7 based system (unless Windows 8 is actuially THAT good!).

Of course Apple make good products, but I am struggling to justify the cost vs. benefit argument.

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Re: Kindle Fire HD - What's the craic?

Postby DonDaddyD » Thu Dec 20, 2012 14:00 pm

My next phone will probably be a Windows 8 phone (thinking Nokia - I like that there is no need for an overlay ontop of the OS, which in itself bring problems) to go with my soon to be upgraded to Windows 8 (64bit) PC. I like 'droid' but I want harmony within my 'ecosystem'.

Also, there are issues with my phone and the software still feels experimental as oppose to Apple's, which feels complete - in fact Windows 7 feels experimental compared to XP's complete and polished feeling - I often wonder whether I should have just upgraded to a 64bit XP and never bothered with 7.

I will say however that Apple's newer stuff appears to be less complete and less polished than Apple products 2 years ago. Apple are clearly going through a transitional phase with its direction, I never seen so many hit-miss products from Apple in recent years (iPad 3 then 6 months later iPad Mini, 4, itunes delay and bugs, iPhone maps....). There was a time when Apple got everything right.
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