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Re: Instagram

Postby marz » Wed Dec 19, 2012 17:56 pm

Bustacapp wrote:
rjsterry wrote:No. This is not what copyright is. A work is automatically under copyright as soon as it is created. Say I take a photo and publish it on Instagram: I'll still retain the copyright, but I will have given them license to use my photo as they see fit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_Kingdom


Copyright Law of the United Kingdom? I assume Instagram is American so there's a possible conflict straight away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_ ... ted_States

^^The American copyright law seems to require registration at a copyright office. Which to me makes total sense.

So in the UK you would still have to prove that you produced that image in some way if you wanted to sue?


Nope, in the USA it's this...

Under the Federal Copyright Act of 1976, photographs are protected by copyright from the moment of creation.

They is no requirement to register anything with a copyright office. It's your until you give that right away (like signing up for a Instagram account).

The problem with the new Instragram T&C is that they can not only use your pictures as they wish (providing your face to the makers of haemorrhoid cream) but also advertise to people you may know without informing them that they are advertising and that you have not endorsed the product. All without paying you a penny.

If this is way facebook and instagram are going to go, they'll be dead in about 8 months.

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Re: Instagram

Postby Paul E » Wed Dec 19, 2012 18:10 pm

I didn't use it much, maybe twice (about a year ago) but this made me delete the account.
bartman100 wrote:The OP is a troll = moron
The OP actually believes this = moron

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Re: Instagram

Postby Bustacapp » Wed Dec 19, 2012 18:37 pm

marz wrote:If this is way facebook and instagram are going to go, they'll be dead in about 8 months.


Not a chance will facebook die unless something much better takes a grip.

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Re: Instagram

Postby Anti_Podean » Wed Dec 19, 2012 20:12 pm

Bustacapp wrote:Nope, not trolling. If you are the creator of an image and someone else claims credit for that, then it is either:

a) Your fault for not copyrighting it.
b) Your fault for signing your copyright over to instagram by virtue of using their website. Isn't it in their t&c's?

Read up on the Berne Convention and, for UK residents, the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act (summary). Creating a work automatically assigns copyright to its creator. You can pee on a blank canvas then throw some rice on it, and its copyright as an artistic work is immediately yours. No need to sign anything; no need to post a copy of it to yourself in a postmarked envelope left unopen.

Though you're right that it's disturbingly easy to "agree" to hand over your ownership to content via online services, though I suspect it could be argued successfully in court if you had the means and motivation.

Instagram's existing T&Cs give them specific limited rights to your images on the service, and ownership remains yours. The fundamental change that their new ToS seeks to make is that while you may own your content, they can do anything they like with it, use it to make money (e.g. an airline pays Instagram to use one of your flattering pictures of them in their next global ad compaign), you won't be able to withdraw consent, and this happens automatically unless you act to prevent it by 16 January, hence the furore. Compare the existing wording (Item 1) and the new wording (Items 2 and 3).

Facebook tried the same thing a few years ago, but got slapped down for it and did some serious back-pedalling With Instagram being the biggest free photographic resource on the Internet they'd be mad not to try it again. Expect to see the pending ToS wording change very soon along with obligatory back-pedalling. :lol:

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Re: Instagram

Postby ShutUpLegs » Wed Dec 19, 2012 22:39 pm

Bustacapp wrote:
marz wrote:If this is way facebook and instagram are going to go, they'll be dead in about 8 months.


Not a chance will facebook die unless something much better takes a grip.


People getting a life :?:
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Re: Instagram

Postby Paul E » Wed Dec 19, 2012 23:31 pm

ShutUpLegs wrote:
Bustacapp wrote:
marz wrote:If this is way facebook and instagram are going to go, they'll be dead in about 8 months.


Not a chance will facebook die unless something much better takes a grip.


People getting a life :?:


Oh no don't disagree with him or tell him he is wrong
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Re: Instagram

Postby daviesee » Wed Dec 19, 2012 23:33 pm

Paul E wrote:
ShutUpLegs wrote:
Bustacapp wrote:
marz wrote:If this is way facebook and instagram are going to go, they'll be dead in about 8 months.


Not a chance will facebook die unless something much better takes a grip.


People getting a life :?:


Oh no don't disagree with him or tell him he is wrong

Maybe he bought the shares. :lol:
None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.

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Re: Instagram

Postby Bustacapp » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:20 am

Paul E wrote:Oh no don't disagree with him or tell him he is wrong

Image

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Re: Instagram

Postby Bustacapp » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:22 am

ShutUpLegs wrote: getting a life :?:


never gonna happen.

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Re: Instagram

Postby rjsterry » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:35 pm

And as predicted by Anti Podean, they have U-tuened on the change already.
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Re: Instagram

Postby Rick Chasey » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:18 pm

Let's be honest.

No-one's going to give a monkeys about my pictures. Do they really want a couple of holiday snaps and a picture of a bike?

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Re: Instagram

Postby Rick Chasey » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:20 pm

rjsterry wrote:And as predicted by Anti Podean, they have U-tuened on the change already.


3 steps forward, 2 steps back ;).

Still get the step forward necessary.

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Re: Instagram

Postby mrc1 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:41 pm

I do love the fact that so many people are tweeting pictures of them closing their Instagram accounts using Twitpic - a service with the same licensing provisions.
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Re: Instagram

Postby daviesee » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:59 pm

mrc1 wrote:I do love the fact that so many people are tweeting pictures of them closing their Instagram accounts using Twitpic - a service with the same licensing provisions.

Twits. :wink:
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Re: Instagram

Postby Anti_Podean » Sat Dec 22, 2012 23:03 pm

rjsterry wrote:And as predicted by Anti Podean, they have U-tuened on the change already.

Anyone need next week's lottery numbers?


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