Knocked off - Hit & run

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby cookdn » Thu Dec 20, 2012 08:55 am

+1, what Bails said. :wink:

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby hstiles » Thu Dec 20, 2012 09:45 am

The combination of CCTV evidence, failing to stop, lying, indepenndent witness make it an easy case for the police and there are often plenty of reasons why someone would want to make themselves scarce after an incident - illegal cabbie, drug dealer, illegal immigrant - so let the criminal case run it's course and deal with the civil recovery ASAP.

Any indication of whether he is insured? Claims companies have access to the insurance database and should be able to tell you quickly whether the driver is insured or not. That will at least tell you whether you will be dealing with an insurance company that, under the circumstances, will try and mitigate their costs by settling as quickly as possible or whether you will have to pursue an uninsured party.

In my case, I was lucky and the person that hit me was insured and admitted liability. I made a point of going online that evening and buying dedicated cycle insurance just in case I wasn't so fortunate in future.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby phy2sll2 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:04 am

+1 to the above.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby fossyant » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:15 am

Glad the barsteward was caught. As others have said, the criminal and civil cases run seperately. If he admits liability (civil) you should get the bike repairs paid for quick (mine was 6 weeks) but the injury side of the case can take years, and you are really going to have to watch that shoulder - it took mine 3.5 years to get sorted.

Push on with the civil case !

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby EightOhEight » Thu Dec 20, 2012 22:29 pm

Headhuunter wrote:I'm amazed that the police are taking criminal action! Not that I think they shouldn't but IME the police barely ever do anything other than give the driver a slap on the wrist in car on bike accidents. The most they do is make him/her go on a course of some kind without any requirement to admit liability....


Got 'knocked off' last night at Cribbs roundabout Bristol smidsy broadside. The Police are prosecuting, they have several witness statements. Road rash and bruising only. very lucky but rear derailleur is mashed

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby Headhuunter » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:01 am

EightOhEight wrote:
Headhuunter wrote:I'm amazed that the police are taking criminal action! Not that I think they shouldn't but IME the police barely ever do anything other than give the driver a slap on the wrist in car on bike accidents. The most they do is make him/her go on a course of some kind without any requirement to admit liability....


Got 'knocked off' last night at Cribbs roundabout Bristol smidsy broadside. The Police are prosecuting, they have several witness statements. Road rash and bruising only. very lucky but rear derailleur is mashed

good, glad the police are possibly taking motorist on cycle crashes seriously for once... Glad you're not too badly hurt...
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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby rebs » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:06 pm

I've had a real positive response from the police involved with this. The officer leading teh charge is also a keen cyclist and seemed geniunly horrified at teh footage.

The civil processings are slowly gathering speed now. Although Christmas s getting in the way... humbug :D

Thought I'd try to be cheeky and request the CCTV footage from the council myself but its as fun as slamming my head against a brick wall at present.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby laughingcavalier » Sat Dec 22, 2012 08:11 am

Look after yourself - all best wishes for safe recovery.
Will be interested to hear how this turns out.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby Bustacapp » Mon Dec 24, 2012 09:21 am

I was worried for a minute that you was gonna say that the fool had got away with it!! Made up they are charging him!!

Glad you're okay. Don't worry about the bike you can always get a new one.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby AirTime » Mon Dec 24, 2012 09:24 am

Firstly rebs glad to hear you're OK and that you're not seriously injured. Good luck with your recovery.

I cycle up and down that road twice every day and know it well. I also know how bad it is when so many drivers pull into Commerical Road from the side streets at break neck speeds and stick out far enough to block the bus lane and any cyclists coming down, hence forcing you into the main part of the road suddenly. Because of this i've bought a MASSIVE 1500 lumen light that makes it look like a cop car is blasting down the bus lane so i'm making sure I can do everything I can to be seen. I've noticed a massive difference with people approaching from side roads to not stick out as far or approach the junction so quickly as they notice my light before reaching the junction (it's that bright!). May be worth thinking about yourself.

I'm also fearful sometimes as I know so many of these dodgy people driving round there have beat up old cars and probably ride without insurance. Fingers crossed the guy who hit you had insurance as it'll be difficult getting anything out of him otherwise regardless of how damming the evidence is. If he has to pay a fine it will no doubt be arranged at 50p a week or something laughable like that.

Good luck and don't let it spoil your Xmas.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby nigglenoo » Thu Dec 27, 2012 15:31 pm

Don't worry about the no insurance issue too much at this stage, the Motor Insurance Bureau are supposed to pay up for uninsured drivers. Then I imagine they persue the driver to reclaim the cost themselves, but your legal representative will know more.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby rebs » Fri Aug 30, 2013 17:03 pm

Hay All,

Thought I'd update this to let you guys know the haps. court case concluded yesterday. The guy pleaded guilty to Dangerous Driving and failure to stop.

He was sentenced with 150 hours Community Service/Unpaid work. Banned from driving for 12 month or until he passes a driving assessment of some sorts. He also has to pay £400 in court fines.

Feel a little mixed over it. Apparently was the guys first ever offense. It went on for 5 hearings and the guy brought along 3 barristers (From Manchester!) Turns out he is a night driver for some company who footed the cost of the legal team..... Really don't understand why a company would want to back bad drivers. I was told the sentence was more lenient because the guy is a "professional driver". Think that is the 1 thing that bugs me that if you are going to be a professional driver and you do have a collision.... worst thing they can do is drive off. Just seems that the punishment doesn't really reflect the fact that he drove off (in a rush looking at the footage)

The evidence was pretty clear cut and damning with a council CCTV catching the incident and the guy driving off. He was arrested 30 minutes later after being pinged by license plate reading camera.

More I think about it the more annoyed over the punishment but I'm not really shocked either.

Have made no in road in the civil case as I've been seriously ill (unrelated to the accident) Bike is still in bits also. meh will see what happens.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby DrLex » Fri Aug 30, 2013 18:09 pm

Thank you for the update; I understand your frustration about leniency for a "professional driver" - if a shop worker is prosecuted for shop-lifting, they usually get a larger punishment than if they were just a customer, due to the breach of trust. Really ought to be held to at least the same standard as a normal driver, if not a higher one.
Don't let the civil case drift - use the conviction as a trigger to get things moving here. Best wishes for your full recovery.

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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby unixnerd » Sat Aug 31, 2013 13:48 pm

Also worth mentioning that when he does get his licence back his insurance premiums will be through the roof. Hope you get fixed up with another bike soon and recover from your other ailments :-)
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Re: Knocked off - Hit & run

Postby The Rookie » Sun Sep 01, 2013 16:27 pm

That will be a 12 month disqualification (minimum for dangerous driving) and then he will only get his licence back after an extended retest (fairly common for dangerous driving).

If his company footed his legal bill, unless he was on company business at the time of the offence that is a benefit in kind and taxable if you want to stir things up.


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