Bob Jackson Vigorelli - advice please

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Bob Jackson Vigorelli - advice please

Postby cycles goff » Sun Jun 29, 2008 15:53 pm

Hi anyone have one of these; I'm looking to build up a frame for some training on the track . Is the geometry and ride like a road or track bike? Would it be stiff enough and have sufficient clearance for most tracks? ...not that I'm chris hoy or anything. Many thanks.

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Postby GaryGkn » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:37 am

They are good although I only bought mine for road use. I bought a 23" last year but it is a little big for me. I have only used it twice in a year so I might end up selling it. Get the size right and I would say they are hard to beat especially for the price. Next one up would be the Mercian - nice but more cash.

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Postby peejay78 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:05 pm

i have a 22 and a half. it's a gorgeous frame, with fairly traditional geometry, horizontal top tube, etc. i think the frame stems from the british path/track combo idea, and as such, there's a bit of room, they're not massively tight. also bear in mind that the 631 tubing is thin and flexible, making it an extremely pliant and lovely ride, but not overly skittish.

i'd argue that the vigorelli, despite its name, is an all-rounder, winter trainer, summer fixed, suitable for track work, without being a thoroughbred with rizla paper-thick clearance.

it is one of the best bikes i have ridden, ever. i love it. (i also ride a colnago super, newish condor, and px-10).

order early, wait time is anything up to 8-10 weeks.

nb, mine doesn't really look like this anymore, replaced ambrosio drivetrain with sugino 75, now using bullhorns for round town, butchered brooks saddle. and it's dark blue, even though it looks black, with green luglining.

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Postby GaryGkn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 08:20 am

Hi Peejay I will try and drop a pic of my BJ tomorrow.

I bought a 23" and the stand over is 85mm. I am 6ft exactly but I wish I had bought a 22" I tried a 21" in Putney cycles last night and the top tube was at a good height but overall this size would be too small. I noticed that my reach on bikes over 23" is compromised slightly and I am at a stretch.

The 23" has nice sized tubing!

Which means that I may decide to sell off all my bikes and start again as they may all be slightly over sized.

How tall are you Peejay?

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Postby peejay78 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 08:44 am

i'm 6"2, i generally ride anything over a 57.

22.5 is about right, 23 is fine as well.

does the 23 have 853 os tubing?

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Postby GaryGkn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 15:48 pm

No 631 tubing.

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Postby Dickie » Tue Jul 01, 2008 16:12 pm

Im 5'11" with a 35" i/leg measured as per Bob Jacksons instructions.I find I can ride a 23.5" no problem. I have a 23.5" Hurlow which has a higher b/bkt which means I only have an 1" or so gooley clearence. I think if you can straddle them ok save your money Gary and keep what you have. The Hurlow,Uppadine and road ace are all 23.5" and the rest 23". As a rough set up I use 30" from b/bkt centre to the top of the saddle.

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Postby GaryGkn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 16:28 pm

Thanks Dickie . I would probably have upgraded to a Mercian Professional fixed. Which would have cost a bomb I'm sure. I have perhaps a mm clearance.

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Postby Dickie » Wed Jul 02, 2008 08:39 am

Gary, what is the standover height and what size tyres do you use?

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Postby GaryGkn » Wed Jul 02, 2008 15:28 pm

Hi Dickie, the tyre are 23mm the stand over height appears to be 85cm although that is from memory so I will measure up tonight.

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Postby Croxted Avenger » Wed Jul 02, 2008 19:37 pm

I've used 28s in my Vigorelli - tight but they will go.
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Postby GaryGkn » Thu Jul 03, 2008 08:02 am

They are able to take 28c but for me that would set top tube even higher!


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