How good are cat 2s?

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby LegendLust » Fri Nov 16, 2012 15:06 pm

JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


First of all he's right. A sportive isn't a race.

As I posted before, a 10mm TT would be the race of truth. Your opponent should know a local club 10 course, which more than likely will be a bit more 'sporting' in course profile (might have a hill in it!). Providing it's an out and back course, Just get a mate to turn up, set you off 5 mins within each other, mate goes to official finish line and records the times. Simple.

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby displacedaussie » Fri Nov 16, 2012 15:25 pm

JoeBond wrote:What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


10 metres.

Try to distract him on the start line.

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby LegendLust » Fri Nov 16, 2012 15:45 pm

LegendLust wrote:
JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


First of all he's right. A sportive isn't a race.

As I posted before, a 10mm TT would be the race of truth. Your opponent should know a local club 10 course, which more than likely will be a bit more 'sporting' in course profile (might have a hill in it!). Providing it's an out and back course, Just get a mate to turn up, set you off 5 mins within each other, mate goes to official finish line and records the times. Simple.



Jeez just realised I've suggested the world's shortist race! I hope everyone realised I meant 10 miles!

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby saprkzz » Fri Nov 16, 2012 16:02 pm

LegendLust wrote:
LegendLust wrote:
JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


First of all he's right. A sportive isn't a race.

As I posted before, a 10mm TT would be the race of truth. Your opponent should know a local club 10 course, which more than likely will be a bit more 'sporting' in course profile (might have a hill in it!). Providing it's an out and back course, Just get a mate to turn up, set you off 5 mins within each other, mate goes to official finish line and records the times. Simple.



Jeez just realised I've suggested the world's shortist race! I hope everyone realised I meant 10 miles!


HAHA, just read your post and didnt even spot that.. maybe cos I am an engineer and work in mm all day long! :)

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby Paul 8v » Fri Nov 16, 2012 16:46 pm

Do love this thread, this reminds me of some guys at my old work that used to boast about their running skills all day and ended up having a race. Workplace Willy waving contest :-)

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby dmclite-3.0 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 19:08 pm

JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


Shorter the better mate :wink:
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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby LegendLust » Fri Nov 16, 2012 19:10 pm

dmclite-3.0 wrote:
JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


Shorter the better mate :wink:


What like 10mm?

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby Monty Dog » Fri Nov 16, 2012 20:26 pm

Yup, because you might just get the jump on him for the first 10 metres when he's not lookin', otherwise he'll just tear the legs of yah, over anything else!
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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby Arthur Scrimshaw » Fri Nov 16, 2012 21:24 pm

100 metres

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby ozzzyosborn206 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 14:03 pm

dmclite-3.0 wrote:
JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?


Shorter the better mate :wink:


or stupidly long like 8 hours, if you think you could hack that? doubt he could

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby NewTTer » Sat Nov 17, 2012 17:54 pm

JoeBond wrote:Hi all. Update is this.
Weve discussed our race at work and my opponent says that a sportive isn’t a race!
But he agrees that it might be difficult for us to get in the same race because I don’t have a licnese yet so organisers might not accept me and we would be in different races anyaway in a crit. So he very generously says I can practice if I want and do the race later in the year.
But…
I am thinking though that a time trial will be better. Consensus on here is that I will get thrashed in a road race. This also seems to be the view of everyone else I know, including all of my cycling friends!
I’ve never done a TT either. What distance do you guys think would give me the best chance?

So you have not raced, or tried a TT, to answer your question what would give you the best chance, offer him your hand and admit to being a muppet and letting the beer do the talking, then move on. You may then want to try somes TT's or races and see what the standards are like and how you stack up

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby thegibdog » Sat Nov 17, 2012 19:55 pm

24hr.

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby amaferanga » Sat Nov 17, 2012 20:08 pm

thegibdog wrote:24hr.


Why? What would that prove?
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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby thegibdog » Sat Nov 17, 2012 20:29 pm

amaferanga wrote:
thegibdog wrote:24hr.

Why?

More chance his opponent turning down the challenge or dropping out and a more entertaining story for everyone else.
amaferanga wrote:What would that prove?

Are we supposed to be proving something? :)

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Re: How good are cat 2s?

Postby amaferanga » Sat Nov 17, 2012 20:52 pm

thegibdog wrote:
amaferanga wrote:
thegibdog wrote:24hr.

Why?

More chance his opponent turning down the challenge or dropping out and a more entertaining story for everyone else.
amaferanga wrote:What would that prove?

Are we supposed to be proving something? :)



Of course! That a gold standard sportive rider is a better cyclist than a 2nd Cat racer :wink:
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