Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in pain

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Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in pain

Postby Rulebritania » Sat Sep 22, 2012 08:24 am

Hello,
I recently bought a Carrera TDF from Halfords as it fitted with my budget into road cycling. I went to the store and sat on a M bike and spoke to the Bikehut expert who was about the same height as me and we ordered a Med. I am 5'7" slim build and aged 43yrs. However after 11 rides covering 151miles I have a pain in the neck and cycle most of the time with my head down constantly glancing up to look ahead. This I know is not the safest way but I have really taken to the sport and love getting out.
I have been onto halfords and asked to raise the handlebars but they need to order a new stem (gone are the days of undoing a bolt and lifting them), this will I presume have the effect of lifting my body and therefore I will not have to raise my head to such an angle.

My Q is should I have ordered the size S and not the M? :?:

HALFORDS Size Guide:
A Compact Geometry bike has all of the same features such as the sloping top
and shorter wheelbase. The difference lies with the top tube; the sloping angle of the top tube is greater than that of Semi Compact bike. The result is a road bike with an increased stand over clearance
Feet and Inches.....Centimetres Top Tube Effective Top Tube Seat Tube Bike Size
5' 5" - 5' 7" ...........165 - 170.....52.5 - 54.0.........54.0 - 55.5............. 48.5 - 50.0...... S

5' 7" - 5' 9"........... 170 - 175..... 54.0 - 55.5.........55.5 - 57.0............ 50.0 - 51.0..... M
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Postby thescouselander » Sat Sep 22, 2012 08:42 am

Sounds like you have the right size bike. A new stem could be the answer but you might be able to raise the bars a bit by simply "flipping" the stem you have.

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Postby Rulebritania » Sat Sep 22, 2012 08:50 am

I have done that to an angle where I can still get my hands gripped for downhill stretches, I hope its a simple fix as I have really taken to it.
I am wondering also if it could the turn in weather noticeable chill in the air?
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Postby SPOC » Sat Sep 22, 2012 09:11 am

I had a Carrera TDF, I am 5'8 and just over 150lbs and had the Large Frame and that fitted perfectly with a slightly shorter stem on it.

The Bike dynamics seem a little funny, and I found the medium when weighing up my options way too compact for my liking.

When you finally find the right set up, it's a great bike for the price by the way, I loved it.

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Postby thescouselander » Sat Sep 22, 2012 09:14 am

It's difficult to say what might be happening without seeing you on the bike. What sort of height difference is there between the saddle and handlebars now? Also, another rough check for your setup is that the axle of your front wheel should be abscured by your handle bars when you look at it in your normal riding position. If the axle is in front or bahind the bars as you look at it the stem length might be wrong.

Also, what position are you riding in normally - on the hoods or the drops?

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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby Rulebritania » Sat Sep 22, 2012 09:24 am

thescouselander wrote:It's difficult to say what might be happening without seeing you on the bike. What sort of height difference is there between the saddle and handlebars now? Also, another rough check for your setup is that the axle of your front wheel should be abscured by your handle bars when you look at it in your normal riding position. If the axle is in front or bahind the bars as you look at it the stem length might be wrong.

Also, what position are you riding in normally - on the hoods or the drops?


I'll check the axel and height difference after work, I normally ride with my hands on the upper part of the brake stem. Even then I need to look down.
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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby theescapedslave » Sat Sep 22, 2012 09:36 am

I'm 5'10" and there is no way I would go with anything larger than the medium that is specified there, so I would have thought that at 5'7" you would be better with the small IMO. Although without pic hard to say for certain

It is easier to size up a bike i.e. longer stem, raised saddle/setback post, than size down...i.e. hack saw.

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Postby theescapedslave » Sat Sep 22, 2012 09:40 am

also try this sizing calulator...not perfect (nothing is)...but it gets you pretty close...provided you take accurate measurements and then you can tweak things by feel from there...
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CC ... ATOR_INTRO

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Postby Brava210 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:58 am

I am sure Halfords do not do the TDF in small.
Medium and large only.
I don't get why people knock Halfords so much. I get mega discount at Halfords, which is why I now have a boardman road which cost me £495 instead of £670 :D
I admit they are not the best, but there are advantages.
I had the TDF for 2 weeks and decided to return it after using it quite a bit, refunded no questions asked.
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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby zummerzet-lou » Mon Sep 24, 2012 03:19 am

Do you have a peak on your cycle helmet? If you do, remove it now! This causes you to have to raise your head higher to look up.

Next thing to look at would be the bike geometry - perhaps find someone who could do a proper bike fitting? Makes the world of difference - might be you need a different stem, your seat moving up, down or even forward or backwards?

Buying new components and then finding they don't solve the problem gets expensive. Also, between each bike change, give your body a chance to adjust to the new position. It takes a while for your muscles to adjust - you don't say what you were riding before?


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Postby stronginthesun » Mon Sep 24, 2012 07:30 am

well done on getting that discount . i have just bought a boardman team hybrid and couldnt even get a saddlebag thrown in and i tried 3 stores ! ( unless i took out the service plan ) im 5ft 8 and got a medium and it seems fine

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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby Rulebritania » Mon Sep 24, 2012 08:38 am

zummerzet-lou wrote:Do you have a peak on your cycle helmet? If you do, remove it now! This causes you to have to raise your head higher to look up.
Buying new components and then finding they don't solve the problem gets expensive. Also, between each bike change, give your body a chance to adjust to the new position. It takes a while for your muscles to adjust - you don't say what you were riding before?


All the best,
Lou


I don't have a peak but cheers for checking. I also am new to cycling, I have given it a month and 11 rides to allow my body to adjust. When it comes to the fitting I have emailed customer services regarding this as it was known from the start that I had no idea when it came to road bikes. The adjustment to the handlebars is something that I did not think required a new stem. All the bikes I had in the past mountain bikes and a junior ralliegh arena I just did myself.
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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby giant man » Mon Sep 24, 2012 08:46 am

I'll go with raising the bars as well. Same thing with me, and flipping the stem thus raising the bars sorted it.

Btw you DON'T get a bike from Halfords ....
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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby Sprool » Mon Sep 24, 2012 09:03 am

+1 for flipping the stem, my new scott S30 stem (110mm) felt a little too much of a reach for me so I flipped it so its pointing up and it raises the bars and brings them a little closer which has made a big difference to my comfort when riding. As I get fitter, more experienced, more flexible I may use a spacer and flip it back again but for now it has helped a lot. I also have a cheap shorter stem awaited from an ebay purchase, they always have loads of stems coming up for sale, so for £10 - £15 you can try a different stem size to see if that helps. If not, you can sell it on again in ebay.

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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby Rulebritania » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:16 am

Flippin the stem??? Err hello Newbie
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Postby nicklouse » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:18 am

Rulebritania wrote:Flippin the stem??? Err hello Newbie

turn it over, it will raise or lower the bar postion depending on how it is fitted now.
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Postby Sprool » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:24 pm

Rulebritania wrote:Flippin the stem??? Err hello Newbie

Have I violated some cycling code of conduct? Yes I'm certainly a newbie to road bikes, the guy in the LBS said stem flipping was possible but he said it in a way that led me to believe it was not always entirely acceptable. I cope with the stares and giggles as its enabled me to cycle further in more comfort ;)

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Postby wilshawk » Mon Sep 24, 2012 14:18 pm

That halfords sizing guide looks a bit confusing to me hard to figure out what the actual seat tube lenght is, but even assuming the smallest measurement there 48.5 is still reasonably lenghty so I would have thought you would have been better off on a small frame.

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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby Brava210 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 14:42 pm

They do not sell the TDF with a small frame
Med and Large only.
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Re: Spare me any I Told You So's with Halfords but? I'm in p

Postby Rulebritania » Tue Sep 25, 2012 08:22 am

Sprool wrote:
Rulebritania wrote:Flippin the stem??? Err hello Newbie

Have I violated some cycling code of conduct? Yes I'm certainly a newbie to road bikes, the guy in the LBS said stem flipping was possible but he said it in a way that led me to believe it was not always entirely acceptable. I cope with the stares and giggles as its enabled me to cycle further in more comfort ;)


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