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Postby Gaz7777gaz » Fri Mar 08, 2013 19:34 pm

hi cycling newbie here just about to submit my order for my new bike from ribble.but getting different veiws from my pals, i have two who i try and keep up with!one his a mavic fan and the other a bit in the middle i like the look og the campag wheels (vento)i am putting all campag groupset on as well(centaur)they are both telling me about the weight of the wheels i am 13 ,5 stone so would 600 gram make that much difference. aksium vs vento or would i be fine on the khamsin? i cant get my head round the weight thing is it that inportant i could lose 600 grams having a crap! :? please help me out i need to order this bike!cheers
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Postby schweiz » Fri Mar 08, 2013 20:03 pm

it takes less effort to accelerate with lighter wheel as there's less mass to spin up. The down side is that they have less inertia so lose momentum faster. Heavier wheels keep turning longer (think of a flywheel).

Depends what you want/need.
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Postby pride4ever » Fri Mar 08, 2013 20:34 pm

No it doesnt matter, it would be cheaper and a million % more beneficial for you to simply lose weight. Always makes me smile when I pass people on hills on full carbon posh rides that weigh 6 kgs yet the rider is way overweight. At 9st 10 my ride at 9kgs is lighter than 99% of cyclists. People forget the human body is where most of the weight lies. Get whatever wheels you think look better on the bike bro.
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Postby VTech » Fri Mar 08, 2013 21:12 pm

pride4ever wrote:No it doesnt matter, it would be cheaper and a million % more beneficial for you to simply lose weight. Always makes me smile when I pass people on hills on full carbon posh rides that weigh 6 kgs yet the rider is way overweight. At 9st 10 my ride at 9kgs is lighter than 99% of cyclists. People forget the human body is where most of the weight lies. Get whatever wheels you think look better on the bike bro.



Your post is really odd, I want to argue with you so much but your 100% correct so I can't.
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Postby Gaz7777gaz » Fri Mar 08, 2013 21:41 pm

VTech wrote:
pride4ever wrote:No it doesnt matter, it would be cheaper and a million % more beneficial for you to simply lose weight. Always makes me smile when I pass people on hills on full carbon posh rides that weigh 6 kgs yet the rider is way overweight. At 9st 10 my ride at 9kgs is lighter than 99% of cyclists. People forget the human body is where most of the weight lies. Get whatever wheels you think look better on the bike bro.

Thanks pal that's why I have taken up cycling !its much easier on my body that ice hockey!and thanks for calling me a fat git my two pals are skinny gits as well .


Your post is really odd, I want to argue with you so much but your 100% correct so I can't.
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Postby Gaz7777gaz » Fri Mar 08, 2013 21:44 pm

pride4ever wrote:No it doesnt matter, it would be cheaper and a million % more beneficial for you to simply lose weight. Always makes me smile when I pass people on hills on full carbon posh rides that weigh 6 kgs yet the rider is way overweight. At 9st 10 my ride at 9kgs is lighter than 99% of cyclists. People forget the human body is where most of the weight lies. Get whatever wheels you think look better on the bike bro.


Thanks pal that's why I have taken up cycling !its much easier on my body that ice hockey!and thanks for calling me a fat git my two pals are skinny gits as well .
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Postby Flasher » Sun Mar 10, 2013 08:55 am

pride4ever wrote:No it doesnt matter, it would be cheaper and a million % more beneficial for you to simply lose weight. Always makes me smile when I pass people on hills on full carbon posh rides that weigh 6 kgs yet the rider is way overweight. At 9st 10 my ride at 9kgs is lighter than 99% of cyclists. People forget the human body is where most of the weight lies. Get whatever wheels you think look better on the bike bro.


So how skinny do you have to be before your allowed nice wheels?

There maybe a pro or 2 that surf this site but most of us aren't and never will be, does that mean we're only allowed cr@ppy old bikes because that's all we're good for?

We all like nice things, buy what you like and can afford and if that's a pair of Lightweights good for you, fwiw. I have some Campag Neutrons and they've been fantastic for the past 4 years.
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Postby matthew h » Sun Mar 10, 2013 09:09 am

Current weight and new lighter wheels = lighter overall

Enjoying the new wheels might mean going out more often, thereby reducing the riders weight too!
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Postby smidsy » Sun Mar 10, 2013 09:13 am

Get the wheels you want.

When they need replacing get some proper hand built wheels and then tell your pals how wrong they were :-)
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Postby Rolf F » Sun Mar 10, 2013 09:57 am

I've got some Ventos and a couple of pairs of Khamsins. Both wheels are very good. As far as I can tell, there is next to no difference in any practical sense between the Ventos and Khamsins. The Ventos look a little nicer but that's it. There is little weight difference - about 120 grams between them. I got my Ventos from Ribble at the same time as the bike as a spare wheelset as they were doing them for silly money (£100) - if they are a really cheap upgrade from the Khamsins then go for it but otherwise I wouldn't bother unless the slight difference in appearance is worth it for you.
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Postby Gaz7777gaz » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:39 am

Rolf F wrote:I've got some Ventos and a couple of pairs of Khamsins. Both wheels are very good. As far as I can tell, there is next to no difference in any practical sense between the Ventos and Khamsins. The Ventos look a little nicer but that's it. There is little weight difference - about 120 grams between them. I got my Ventos from Ribble at the same time as the bike as a spare wheelset as they were doing them for silly money (£100) - if they are a really cheap upgrade from the Khamsins then go for it but otherwise I wouldn't bother unless the slight difference in appearance is worth it for you.
cheers mate might save my self a bit of money and go with the khamsin s .because I am new to this and everybody I talk to mentions the weight and the they say you can up grade later! That seems a bit silly to me when you can get what you want the first time round .i ride a trek 1.4 alpha with campagnello mirage and open pro wheels I bought of eBay for £250 a year ago.will I notice the difference and if so where!
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Postby ugo.santalucia » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:33 am

Gaz7777gaz wrote:
Rolf F wrote:I've got some Ventos and a couple of pairs of Khamsins. Both wheels are very good. As far as I can tell, there is next to no difference in any practical sense between the Ventos and Khamsins. The Ventos look a little nicer but that's it. There is little weight difference - about 120 grams between them. I got my Ventos from Ribble at the same time as the bike as a spare wheelset as they were doing them for silly money (£100) - if they are a really cheap upgrade from the Khamsins then go for it but otherwise I wouldn't bother unless the slight difference in appearance is worth it for you.
cheers mate might save my self a bit of money and go with the khamsin s .because I am new to this and everybody I talk to mentions the weight and the they say you can up grade later! That seems a bit silly to me when you can get what you want the first time round .i ride a trek 1.4 alpha with campagnello mirage and open pro wheels I bought of eBay for £250 a year ago.will I notice the difference and if so where!


It sound to me the Kamhsin ar a step down from the open pro you have... Certainly the rim is a lot heavier, feels like a hoop of iron in comparison... Keep you open pro and never call your group set Campagnello again... :wink:
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Postby pride4ever » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:00 pm

Flasher wrote:
pride4ever wrote:No it doesnt matter, it would be cheaper and a million % more beneficial for you to simply lose weight. Always makes me smile when I pass people on hills on full carbon posh rides that weigh 6 kgs yet the rider is way overweight. At 9st 10 my ride at 9kgs is lighter than 99% of cyclists. People forget the human body is where most of the weight lies. Get whatever wheels you think look better on the bike bro.


So how skinny do you have to be before your allowed nice wheels?

There maybe a pro or 2 that surf this site but most of us aren't and never will be, does that mean we're only allowed cr@ppy old bikes because that's all we're good for?

We all like nice things, buy what you like and can afford and if that's a pair of Lightweights good for you, fwiw. I have some Campag Neutrons and they've been fantastic for the past 4 years.



Thats my point exactly dude. Get the blingest wheels you like and worry not how heavy or light they may be. Make all your savings in your own weight loss. Whats the point in saving 500g on a pair of lite-weight boring looking wheels when you can lose a stone and ride on deep section in your face monsters.

If any of you want to know how to lose weight pm me, but be warned like cycling its brutal but completely worth it.
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Postby Rolf F » Sun Mar 10, 2013 16:51 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:It sound to me the Kamhsin ar a step down from the open pro you have... Certainly the rim is a lot heavier, feels like a hoop of iron in comparison... Keep you open pro and never call your group set Campagnello again... :wink:


Has he got Open Pros? It's a new bike so I'd assume he has nowt! Khamsins are a £100 wheel and very reliable. They aren't that light but they aren't that heavy. It's a good wheel to start off with and give yourself time to work out what summer special wheelset you'd like.

pride4ever wrote:Thats my point exactly dude. Get the blingest wheels you like and worry not how heavy or light they may be. Make all your savings in your own weight loss. Whats the point in saving 500g on a pair of lite-weight boring looking wheels when you can lose a stone and ride on deep section in your face monsters.


Deep section wheels don't look interesting - they just look heavy and clumsy! Better to lose a stone and ride light weight wheels (that look good!) ;)
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Postby pride4ever » Sun Mar 10, 2013 17:32 pm

Rolf F wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:It sound to me the Kamhsin ar a step down from the open pro you have... Certainly the rim is a lot heavier, feels like a hoop of iron in comparison... Keep you open pro and never call your group set Campagnello again... :wink:


Has he got Open Pros? It's a new bike so I'd assume he has nowt! Khamsins are a £100 wheel and very reliable. They aren't that light but they aren't that heavy. It's a good wheel to start off with and give yourself time to work out what summer special wheelset you'd like.

pride4ever wrote:Thats my point exactly dude. Get the blingest wheels you like and worry not how heavy or light they may be. Make all your savings in your own weight loss. Whats the point in saving 500g on a pair of lite-weight boring looking wheels when you can lose a stone and ride on deep section in your face monsters.


Deep section wheels don't look interesting - they just look heavy and clumsy! Better to lose a stone and ride light weight wheels (that look good!) ;)



You forgot to add....imho bro. I wouldnt ride with girlie hoops on if you paid me nowadays. The deeper the section the deeper the pleasure.......YOWZA.
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Postby Rolf F » Sun Mar 10, 2013 19:44 pm

pride4ever wrote:You forgot to add....imho bro.


No, I definitely didn't forget to add.... imho. With or without the "bro" :wink:
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Postby pride4ever » Sun Mar 10, 2013 23:18 pm

Rolf F wrote:
pride4ever wrote:You forgot to add....imho bro.


No, I definitely didn't forget to add.... imho. With or without the "bro" :wink:


Oh Ok the next time I want to read some incoherent tripe I'll hit you up...bro.
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Postby Rolf F » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:09 am

pride4ever wrote:
Rolf F wrote:
pride4ever wrote:You forgot to add....imho bro.


No, I definitely didn't forget to add.... imho. With or without the "bro" :wink:


Oh Ok the next time I want to read some incoherent tripe I'll hit you up...bro.


Now, it may well be the case that my post was tripe (not for me to say!) but I think you'll find it definitely was coherent. It wasn't me that wrote " when you can lose a stone and ride on deep section in your face monsters" :lol:

(and what's with all this "I'll hit you up" stuff - are you by any chance Tim Westwood? :wink: )
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Postby Gaz7777gaz » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:32 am

Just ordered the bike with vento wheels cheers for the advice . :)
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Postby smidsy » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:12 am

pride4ever wrote:
Rolf F wrote:
pride4ever wrote:You forgot to add....imho bro.


No, I definitely didn't forget to add.... imho. With or without the "bro" :wink:


Oh Ok the next time I want to read some incoherent tripe I'll hit you up...bro.

Or speak to a fellow American perhaps!
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