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deos this suck?

yes
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no
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Postby ddoogie » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:09 am

Work slippers?
S-works Stumpjumper FSR

I'll see you at the end.

You'll see me on the floor.

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Postby Yorkshireman » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:40 am

B Chapman wrote:you all owe me pity. I have to sit next to him.


Birds of a feather flock ... You'll get no pity or mercy here mate :lol: .
Colin N.


Lincolnshire is mostly flat... but the wind is mostly in your face!

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Postby B Chapman » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:44 am

I'm his uncle.

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Postby Yorkshireman » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:55 am

B Chapman wrote:I'm his uncle.


Bob's ... There's no answer to that (not a 'kind' one anyway) :roll: .
Colin N.





Lincolnshire is mostly flat... but the wind is mostly in your face!

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Postby Gavin Weeks » Wed Jul 18, 2007 13:08 pm

Uncle Ben - hows auntie Nockles?

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Postby Yorkshireman » Wed Jul 18, 2007 13:43 pm

Gavin Weeks wrote:Uncle Ben - hows auntie Nockles?


'Trailing' about ... Somewhere? :) .
Colin N.





Lincolnshire is mostly flat... but the wind is mostly in your face!

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Postby dirtbiker100 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 13:28 pm

I am so very very grateful mbuk has decided to catch up and join the rest of the forums on the internet. I hated coming to mbuk cos the forum felt so dated and different to all the others out there. using phpbb is a great choice. thanks v much admins
(the other 4 forums i have used - 2 of which had a bigger membership than this and 2 used the same format)

theres just a problem of people getting used to something bad and not wanting to change from it and re-learn.
like ms windows really.

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Postby Gavin Weeks » Thu Jul 19, 2007 13:33 pm

dirtbiker100 wrote:I am so very very grateful mbuk has decided to catch up and join the rest of the forums on the internet. I hated coming to mbuk cos the forum felt so dated and different to all the others out there. using phpbb is a great choice. thanks v much admins
(the other 4 forums i have used - 2 of which had a bigger membership than this and 2 used the same format)

theres just a problem of people getting used to something bad and not wanting to change from it and re-learn.
like ms windows really.



I think you have nailed it on the head there. In comparison, I have moved over to mac for wok and find using my windows parallel a nightmare because its just so hard to do anything simple. Although Windows Explorer kicks Finders ass anyday.

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Postby dirtbiker100 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 17:13 pm

hmmm you really are going to use pictures for everything aren't you ha ha

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Postby Gavin Weeks » Thu Jul 19, 2007 19:40 pm

Image

Well i'm gonna try anyway!!

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Postby Big n Daft » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:10 pm

Gavin Weeks wrote:Image

Well i'm gonna try anyway!!


Jeez....

I thought for one horrible second that my monitor had been replaced by a mirror!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Then i realised.....that pic is far too intelligent looking for me.
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Postby DigDug » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:24 pm

supersonic wrote:There are other threads you can voice your concerns in, and I believe another poll too! Say why you don't like it etc and put forward suggestions to the team.



OK,
I don't like this forum, becuase the majority of the regulars who seemed to make this forum an enjoyable place to be, have left. It feels empty, and what used to be a community has been ruined.
I don't like the white background, because it's sore on the eyes after any length of time.
I don't like the fact that all 4 magazines have been clumped together in one forum, becuase there is now way too many forums on the one page.

So, what to do then
well for a start the background colour could be changed. The background colours for replies could alternate, much like the snitz layout.
Their should be a quick reply function.
Member names shouldn't be in Caps, it looks tacky.
TBH their small changes, but it helps take the forum out of the beta stages.
In short, all the functions that were previously available in the old forums, should remain.

Also, can someone ( mod/admin) answer these q's please.
First off, why was the forum host changed? What was wrong with Snitz.
secondly, why have half of the mod's had their powers removed? They all helped keep the forum free of n00bs.

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Postby Yorkshireman » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:37 pm

Gavin Weeks wrote:Image

Well i'm gonna try anyway!!


Oy! ... Weeksy ... Aintcher got some er that there Designing/Developing stuff ter be doing ... sted er playing on here (or are you 'testing the software') :lol:
Colin N.





Lincolnshire is mostly flat... but the wind is mostly in your face!

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Postby Big Red S » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:37 pm

DigDug wrote:
supersonic wrote:There are other threads you can voice your concerns in, and I believe another poll too! Say why you don't like it etc and put forward suggestions to the team.



OK,
I don't like this forum, becuase the majority of the regulars who seemed to make this forum an enjoyable place to be, have left. It feels empty, and what used to be a community has been ruined.

That's not something I think we can get the developers to fix.
I don't like the fact that all 4 magazines have been clumped together in one forum, becuase there is now way too many forums on the one page.

Use the 'newposts' page? Much the same as the Active Topics of Snitz, but with less scrolling.
So, what to do then
well for a start the background colour could be changed. The background colours for replies could alternate, much like the snitz layout.

They do.
Their should be a quick reply function.

Apparently that's coming.
Member names shouldn't be in Caps, it looks tacky.

This is, it has been alleged, the subject of some dspute in MBUK towers. I know, I don't understand either why anyone wants them in all caps.
First off, why was the forum host changed? What was wrong with Snitz.

What's wrong with PHPBB?
I'd have presumed it's ASP vs. PHP, but netcraft reckons they're still running Windows Server 2003 and Windows 2000 with MS IIS, so I'm not so sure.
Or maybe the new net guys know PHPBB better, or it's easier to extend and tweak.
Could be that the new CMS is PHP based, and it's easier to integrate PHP with PHP than with ASP.
secondly, why have half of the mod's had their powers removed? They all helped keep the forum free of n00bs.

I haven't. Nick hasn't. Well, we're not as powerful as we were on MBUK, but can still moderate.
This forum is obviously going to need moderating in a different way to MBUK. Presumably they'd rather have few mods who can cover road and MtB rather than a few who do one and a few who do the other.
I know they are currently working out how the moderating's going to work.

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Postby supersonic » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:38 pm

"So, what to do then
well for a start the background colour could be changed. The background colours for replies could alternate, much like the snitz layout.
Their should be a quick reply function.
Member names shouldn't be in Caps, it looks tacky.
TBH their small changes, but it helps take the forum out of the beta stages.
In short, all the functions that were previously available in the old forums, should remain. "

All that I completely agree with, and hopefully it will be changed. It seems to be the main problem for many, the 'clinical' look to the place. Reason to leave? Not for me anyway. I also agree that the forum sections could be condensed somewhat, and perhaps more identy given to the mags that Future sell within the forum section as a whole. But I have not seen any of this WMB vs MBUK vs C+ etc nonsense that people were thinking was going to happen, it all pretty harmonious, with the Sandbox catering for people that way inclined, which is no bad thing.

As for noobs, lol, we all start somewhere, flaming them aint gonna do much for new members! Though searching threads wouldn't go amiss, many questions are replicated. Some mods were removed because (I think) of comments some may have made on alternative forums. Possibly... ;-)

In the end I don't see what you can't do here that you can do on other forums. Everything seems in place - just needs a bit of gloss adding.

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Postby DigDug » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:43 pm

[quote="supersonic"]
Some mods were removed because (I think) of comments some may have made on alternative forums. Possibly... ;-)
[quote]

I didn't know that when you became a mod, you accepted terms, that meant you would not talk about the forum elsewhere.
Pretty stupid reason to remove their powers if you ask me, it's not as if they were being abused...



Edit: I agree Supersonic, that after a while everything will work fine etc. but that's not much use when half of the regular forumites have left.
Last edited by DigDug on Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Postby supersonic » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:46 pm

I did say it was a possibility, who knows?! As BigRedS says, changes are underfoot.

But if you ask me, making an alternative forum, slagging the other off and spamming it is probably not the best way forward!

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Postby DigDug » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:51 pm

There are rules imposed on the alternative forums, that prevents forumites from spamming, unless they want to be banned from said forum.
All this alternative forum is, is a new place where the old communities can stay together.
Theres more people on this alternative forum ( if you put forum size into perspective ) that their is on bikeradar just now. Maybe when Bikeradar is finally fixed, people will start drifting back over, but until then, I reckon it will stay dead.

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Postby Big Red S » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:52 pm

DigDug wrote:
supersonic wrote:Some mods were removed because (I think) of comments some may have made on alternative forums. Possibly... ;-)
I didn't know that when you became a mod, you accepted terms, that meant you would not talk about the forum elsewhere.

No, you don't. Not on paper anyway. But I don't think it's going too far to expect mods and admins to support the forum?
I don't think that was the reason all these mods lost their powers. I think it's more that there were more mods than was needed.



Edit: I agree Supersonic, that after a while everything will work fine etc. but that's not much use when half of the regular forumites have left.

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Postby supersonic » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:57 pm

New uptake here seems quite good, though I have nothing really to compare it against as I don't know old figures. But I can say that BR gained more members over the last 2 days than one of the forums has gained in total... I think that a new 'community' will form, but it is a pity that many left through the transition from old to new. I do use one of the alternatives, its very good, but I don't have a reason to put all my eggs in one basket.


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