First 25m TT

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby nferrar » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:15 am

I always preferred 25's, on 10's I found I had to be outside of my 'comfort' zone (relative term :p ) to set a decent time whereas on a 25 I could just stay around threshold and wind it up for the last couple of miles if I felt I had anything left. Main issue I had was trying to keep focus and not just let your speed drop without realising it (I only used a speedo to judge by rather than HRM/power, although they would have been more useful if I'd had them available).
For your first 25 I'd just go out and ride it and not worry about your time at all, worst case you finish with plenty left in you and a slow time but you'll have learnt something and be able to beat your PB next time so it's all good.
I never used to warm-up either, used to thing any energy spent before would be energy I can't spend during but I didn't have a clue about what warm-ups actually did physiologically, if I was still TTing now I'm sure I'd experiment with them (especially before a 10).

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby markos1963 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 21:31 pm

Well it was the big day today and how did it go?
Well it went sh!t, Got to the first roundabout(200yards) and a car decided to do a uturn without signalling, I had to take evasive action but with my brakes on hard and me passing over gravel there was only one result, a front end washout and a long long slide down the road. Car driver speeds off into the unknown and I'm left lying dazed and confused on the road. Luckily I'm not too badly hurt and the bike is relatively ok. So I'm yet to complete a 25TT and I have the Little Mountain TT to race next week.

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby Johnpsanderson » Mon Apr 23, 2012 13:25 pm

Personally I work off HR and a 'lactate threshold' figure that I worked out through observation (and finally got verified through some lab testing). Having an idea where you are distance-wise is a good thing - i don't have a speedo on my bike but try to understand how far to go to help pace myself for the effort at the end of the race...

For a 10 I usually try to ride within 165-173 bpm - having found 171 or thereabouts to be my relevant threshold for 10 miles. For the last 3 or 4 minutes i'll let my HR go as high as I can get it - on the basis I can just cling on to that level of effort and it doesn't matter that I can't recover from it.

When i've ridden 25's i've just backed a few bpm off that - so tried to ride around 163-168 bpm - then tried my best to smash at something closer to 10 miles pace for the last 2 or 3 miles - knowing the end is in sight...
Put me back on my bike...

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby markos1963 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 16:18 pm

Well, what with the weather and work etc it's taken until today for me to complete my first 25'. So how did I do? 1hr 5m 30s is the answer and I am a very pleased bunny. Nothing great in the grand scheme of things but at least it's done now and out of the way. The interesting thing was I actually felt stronger and in more control than riding a 10, is this the case for others?

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby BeaconRuth » Sun Sep 23, 2012 16:42 pm

A lot faster than my first ever 25! Well done!

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby danowat » Sun Sep 23, 2012 19:17 pm

markos1963 wrote:Well, what with the weather and work etc it's taken until today for me to complete my first 25'. So how did I do? 1hr 5m 30s is the answer and I am a very pleased bunny. Nothing great in the grand scheme of things but at least it's done now and out of the way. The interesting thing was I actually felt stronger and in more control than riding a 10, is this the case for others?


Good stuff.

I find 10's hard to ride, at least a 25 (and above) gives you a bit of time to get into a good rhythm.

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby SBezza » Mon Sep 24, 2012 08:31 am

danowat wrote:
markos1963 wrote:Well, what with the weather and work etc it's taken until today for me to complete my first 25'. So how did I do? 1hr 5m 30s is the answer and I am a very pleased bunny. Nothing great in the grand scheme of things but at least it's done now and out of the way. The interesting thing was I actually felt stronger and in more control than riding a 10, is this the case for others?


Good stuff.

I find 10's hard to ride, at least a 25 (and above) gives you a bit of time to get into a good rhythm.


I am normally the same, but after riding the 1st 20 mins of a 25 at 10 effort at the weekend, think a 10 would have been easier, doing another 15-16 miles at just below 25 mile effort was not pleasent in the slightest, especially when you try to raise the effort again :lol:

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby danowat » Mon Sep 24, 2012 08:40 am

SBezza wrote:
danowat wrote:
markos1963 wrote:Well, what with the weather and work etc it's taken until today for me to complete my first 25'. So how did I do? 1hr 5m 30s is the answer and I am a very pleased bunny. Nothing great in the grand scheme of things but at least it's done now and out of the way. The interesting thing was I actually felt stronger and in more control than riding a 10, is this the case for others?


Good stuff.

I find 10's hard to ride, at least a 25 (and above) gives you a bit of time to get into a good rhythm.


I am normally the same, but after riding the 1st 20 mins of a 25 at 10 effort at the weekend, think a 10 would have been easier, doing another 15-16 miles at just below 25 mile effort was not pleasent in the slightest, especially when you try to raise the effort again :lol:


Yeah, I know a lot of people who say they can ride a 25 like a 10, I can't, I've made some boo-boo's, did the first 25 of a 50 way too hard, hung on for 25 miles, which wasn't pleasant, worse one was riding the first 40 miles of a 100 at over 50 pace, and hanging on for 60 miles!, I've learnt from my mistakes :)

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby SBezza » Mon Sep 24, 2012 08:49 am

I can't ride a 25 like a 10 either LOL, this weekend showed that, it was only a training race though and I did get a course PB as a solo rider so not all bad.

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Re: First 25m TT

Postby okgo » Mon Sep 24, 2012 16:14 pm

I find a longer effort easier to pace too.

I actually did more watts on a 25 recently that I've ever done for a ten. Its annoying.
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