First Crit Race

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Laser man
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First Crit Race

Postby Laser man » Mon May 28, 2012 18:55 pm

Hi, Guys. I'm 15 and am two weeks away from my first crit, being so inexperienced I was wondering whether any of you more seasoned racers could give me some tips. It would be a real help and would make me not look like a tit in my first race, thanks.

I'm also after a new set of tyres, seeing as mine are a bit worn from the turbo. I was looking a Michelin Pro3's, is this a good idea or should I just get GP4000's?

DavidJB
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Re: First Crit Race

Postby DavidJB » Mon May 28, 2012 20:39 pm

GP4000's are awesome!

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby markos1963 » Tue May 29, 2012 09:35 am

First tip would be to make sure whatever tyres you buy have a few rides on them first to scrub them in and to get a feel for them. Your speed through corners will be vital in a crit so it pays to have confidense in your tyres and their ability.

Next tip would be to make sure you keep up near the front of the pack, third or fourth row is good, so you keep out of trouble and don't have that terrible yo yo-ing you get at the back of a pack.

Other than that just go and have some fun.

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby hammerite » Tue May 29, 2012 09:38 am

Tyre wise I've started using Schwalbe Ultremo this season and I really like them. Think they're similar to the Pro3.

Tips... keep to your line - if you need to move round look first and edge out gradually, no wild swerves. If you are able to try to keep moving forward in the bunch, again gradually - if you find yourself at the very back it can become very hard work especially on twisty or hilly circuits. If you have good legs maybe put a couple of digs in (but don't worry if you can't it's good just to get used to racing).

Most of all have fun.

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby SheffSimon » Tue May 29, 2012 10:10 am

hammerite wrote:Tyre wise I've started using Schwalbe Ultremo this season and I really like them. Think they're similar to the Pro3.

Tips... keep to your line - if you need to move round look first and edge out gradually, no wild swerves. If you are able to try to keep moving forward in the bunch, again gradually - if you find yourself at the very back it can become very hard work especially on twisty or hilly circuits. If you have good legs maybe put a couple of digs in (but don't worry if you can't it's good just to get used to racing).

Most of all have fun.


Definitely Ultremos for cornering without braking.


Laser man
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Re: First Crit Race

Postby Laser man » Tue May 29, 2012 17:36 pm

Thanks for the advice. The course is completely flat but does have some tight bends which could be interesting.

Are the Ultremo's any good for training too, i.e puncture proof? Also where are they cheapest, I'm a bit tight on money, you see?

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Re: First Crit Race

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Rule74Please
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Re: First Crit Race

Postby Rule74Please » Wed May 30, 2012 08:35 am

why compromise.

best race tyre ever made

Conti GP Supersonic. Fast grippy and v light (for you weight weenies)

13 seasons no flats usually threw them out as they wore out

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Herbsman
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Re: First Crit Race

Postby Herbsman » Thu May 31, 2012 11:01 am

best thing to do is go into the red on the first lap, blow up, get dropped and lapped twice. thats what i did anyway

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby Wrath Rob » Thu May 31, 2012 12:18 pm

Don't get too hung up about your tyre choice. At this level, your fitness will make the biggest difference to how you get on. If you've not ridden much in a big bunch before it can be a bit intimidating. Riding with a club will help you get used to this. As said above, hold your line, i.e. don't swerve, don't overlap wheels with the person directly in front of you in case they swerve and take you out but don't get intimidated by others around you trying to push you out of your place in the line.

The most important piece of advice though is to get out there an have some fun.
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Re: First Crit Race

Postby racingcondor » Thu May 31, 2012 13:23 pm

If you're on a budget then GP4000S is a better choice than Pro3's, Ultremo's etc. Not quite as fast but the durability is much better (much more likely to get a season out of them). Any of them will be fine for racing though.

As for race advice, I'd try to spend the first 1/2 sitting in the pack and getting used to riding close, moving with the bunch and not dropping to the back every lap. By half way through you'll either be dropped, hanging on for dear life or know you're capable of attempting something.

Other than that, enjoy it.

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby inseine » Fri Jun 01, 2012 07:02 am

It's your firts race, don't worry, juts ride it and learn and don't be disheartened if you don't get a result. Start as near to the front as possible so you can drop back without being shelled out the back.

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby oldwelshman » Sun Jun 17, 2012 13:30 pm

tyres faster than others? hmm never saw a tyre win a race before. Much to personal choice though I am 100% sure no one will win a race by changing tyres.

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Herbsman
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Re: First Crit Race

Postby Herbsman » Sun Jun 17, 2012 14:14 pm

oldwelshman wrote:tyres faster than others? hmm never saw a tyre win a race before. Much to personal choice though I am 100% sure no one will win a race by changing tyres.

I won a race after switching to Ultremos.

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby DavidJB » Mon Jun 18, 2012 05:31 am

oldwelshman wrote:tyres faster than others? hmm never saw a tyre win a race before. Much to personal choice though I am 100% sure no one will win a race by changing tyres.


I used to ride any old tyres and I would always finish last in every cat 4 race, then I switched to GP4000s and instantly started winning pro-tour races.

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Re: First Crit Race

Postby esafosfina » Tue Jun 19, 2012 13:45 pm

Something crucial is a decent warm-up. See if you can get to ride the course/circuit a couple of times prior to the start just to familiarise yourself with the surface, corners, wind direction etc... But give your self plenty of time to sign-on, get your number, and warm-up. If you have a set of rollers or an ergo all the better, if not try to get a good 15 minutes of road work in. Use the static trainer to warm-up for about the same, no need to go mad, you're not riding a Pro Tour event, but a steady 15mins should do. Try to get to the front of the line-up at the start line, and (I know this can be difficult starting out) don't get too nervous. The more stressed you get the worse your bike-handling becomes, and you certainly don't want to lay it down and take a dozen or more with you! Stay nicely tucked in the first quarter of the field, and try and see who is riding strongly and who isn't. Obviously you don't want to pick the wheel of someone who is leaving gaps every lap; it makes for a harder ride and more effort on your behalf. Golden rule: if you are going to move out of line at any stage: LOOK BEHIND FIRST!

Tyres... Ask around a bit... I'm pretty traditional with my tyre choice - tubulars, not pumped too hard for crits, but there are some very good clinchers out there. The Raleigh squad have been using Schwalbe tyres and have only good things to say about them. I was sponsored for a while by Continental, so I can give my approval on those. For some strange reason I could never get on with Michelin... just ask around.

Other than the above my advice is be as relaxed as you can be, enjoy yourself, and send me 10% commission on all prize-money won!


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