Pross wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:danowat wrote:So because of statistics, the 100 or so deaths a year in general cycling is ok?
Again, its the drivers (lets be honest, the standard of driving in this country is terrible) that need education, not riders removed from the road.
No it is not OK. But when you consider the millions of cyclists on the road every day the risks involved are incredibly slight. You have more chance of being killed by an inanimate object, alcohol poisoning, accidental hanging / strangulation or inhalation / ingestion of food.
Out of the 100 odd cyclists killed on the roads in England & Wales, in 2007 only 41 were killed in a collision with cars or vans and only 27 in 2009. (one must assume the other deaths were from falling off or crashing into things). Time trials are responsible for an even greater percentage of deaths if you look at deaths involving vehicles.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... wales-2009
Your assumption is wrong. The 41 would appear to exclude collisions involving HGVs. I don't have the data for those specific years but for 2005-2007 82% of accidents with cycling fatalities (83% of KSI and 87% of slight) involved a collision with another vehicle. 0% (0.2% KSI and 0.4% slight) involved another cyclist, 0.7% (0.7% KSI and 0.6% of slight) involved pedestrians whilst for non-collision accidents the figures were 17%, 16% and 12% respectively. This should be caveated that the data only relates to reported accidents on the public highway as the figures come from the police STATS19 reports. Source:- TRL Report PPR445 "Collisions Involving Pedal Cyclists on Britain's Roads: Establishing The Causes"
There don't seem to be figures for HGVs only cars & vans. Even so I find it odd there were so few out of over 100 deaths involving cars & vans, also odd why there are no figures for HGVs when there are figures for everything else.
Also the falling off or hitting something could be caused by a car, van or HGV even if there was no collision with the offending vehicle.