oldwelshman wrote:BigMat wrote:oldwelshman wrote:BigMat wrote:I can't see me ever making 100 points at 3rd cat, I just don't have time to race enough and the points on offer for 3rd cat races are too low (I guess you can always do 2/3 races). 40 seems about right as far as I can see. What kind of pussy deliberately stays a level below his own ability just so he can pick up wins against weaker opposition? That's just pathetic.
What an arsehole, think before you write.
What about a vet that could be 60 years old, wins two medals at world masters and UK champs and gets almost enough to get 1st cat? Do you think a 60 yearold would want to ride as a 1st cat?
I know a couple of guys that dont race bcf becuase they are a second cat technically.
Last year I had 185 points as second cat and alsmost made 1st cat which I did not want to as it limits races I can do for training to 1st cat races, so that makes me a pussy also?
Fair enough, maybe should have thought about that one a bit more. I was looking at it from persepctive of 3rd to 2nd cat which is what I thought the thread was about, but apologies if I caused offence. It does seem that there are issues that maybe need addressing around 2nd to 1st cat. Actually, reading my quote back, I still think its pretty sad to "deliberately stay a level below your own ability just so you can pick up wins against weaker opposition". Not sure why that opinion makes me an arsehole. Fair enough if you have other reasons for wanting to stay where you are.
I cannot see how the new systems would improve what you say is happeneing, in fact it would make it worse.
How do you reckon riders stay down a category so they can pick up wins against weaker riders? If thats the case they would get more points and become a 2nd cat surely? Then with new system they would have to win more races.
All this will do is make more third cat riders, not sure whats the point of that.
I'm not saying its happening. Personally I find it really strange that somebody would deliberately opt to stay at 3rd cat. That seems to be being given as the reason for the points change though. I guess I just find the proposed change frustrating because it takes what I consider to be a realistic goal and replaces it with something that I have no chance of achieving because I just don't have the time to race as much as I would need to get 100 points. I guess if they are changing the points awarded to 3/4 races then it might work, but people seem to be suggesting less points for 3/4 circuit races not more. Given that the only midweek races I can do are circuit races, I would have to win pretty much the entire Hog Hill summer series to step up a category (by way of example). Weekend racing is a big ask at the moment due ti family commitments etc. It just seems to penalise people who aren't able to commit all their spare time to road racing, regardless of how strong they might actually be. Apologies for the rambling response, I guess I'm just bitter that my target for next season looks like slipping away before the season even starts!