Counting down laps in road race - how can it go wrong?

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Re: Counting down laps in road race - how can it go wrong?

Postby dennisn » Thu Jul 18, 2013 20:11 pm

ShockedSoShocked wrote:Rode the same lap 3 times on a 8 lap (9mile circuit) once. Lots of groaning ensued.

I have got to say that that would be the worst case I've ever heard of. A lap or two on a short course 30 lap crit? Yeah, it can happen despite the best of intentions, but forgetting 3 laps in an 8 lap race is called falling asleep at the wheel. What's that old saying? What can happen will.

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Re: Counting down laps in road race - how can it go wrong?

Postby Dru » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:38 pm

Herbsman wrote:
Dru wrote:
The other thing is - you ride to the bell and get the bell with a lap to go - if it didn't ring - then you ain't on the last lap..

So what are you saying - no-one should try to win solo until the bell rings? No-one should try and get away until the bell lap? Ridiculous....



Just seen this.

No - not ridiculous at all, and I've not said anything about waiting until a lap to go to make your break.

A lap board should show either every lap or has been said, will be brought out with 5 or 3 laps to go in instances of an approx timed race (say 45min or an hour) (and will be mentioned at the pre-race briefing)

In the perfect world, the count down will always be right, but as you are nearly always using humans to operate the lap board, bell etc etc mistakes do happen, particulalry when different people have different systems for doing things.

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Re: Counting down laps in road race - how can it go wrong?

Postby Herbsman » Tue Jul 30, 2013 19:10 pm

What did you mean 'you ride to the bell' then? :?

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Re: Counting down laps in road race - how can it go wrong?

Postby dennisn » Tue Jul 30, 2013 20:17 pm

Dru wrote:
Herbsman wrote:
Dru wrote:
The other thing is - you ride to the bell and get the bell with a lap to go - if it didn't ring - then you ain't on the last lap..

So what are you saying - no-one should try to win solo until the bell rings? No-one should try and get away until the bell lap? Ridiculous....



A lap board should show either every lap or has been said, will be brought out with 5 or 3 laps to go in instances of an approx timed race (say 45min or an hour) (and will be mentioned at the pre-race briefing)

In the perfect world, the count down will always be right, but as you are nearly always using humans to operate the lap board, bell etc etc mistakes do happen, particulalry when different people have different systems for doing things.


Our club uses a lap board that requires someone to flip it after each lap and therein lies the chance for a mistake or two. It's nothing that the riders can't deal with on a short(less than a mile) course when you're doing 25 or 30 laps.
However on some of our longer(6 to 8 mile) courses(say 5 to 8 laps), making sure the cards are flipped becomes much more critical.
The club would love to have a big countdown timer at the short course crit's, then just do an hour plus 5 laps. Problem is the club doesn't have a ton of money for these things. One of the members has kind of donated a camera
and we are now able to video the sprint laps and the finish itself for ease of scoring. Who knows. a digital clock could be in our future.


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