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10TT warm up

Postby ednino » Mon Jun 24, 2013 18:59 pm

Whats the best way to warm up for a 10 tt?

Im worried that I'll use too much energy and have nothing left for the race

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby Nik Cube » Mon Jun 24, 2013 19:35 pm

Get yourself moving and get your heart rate up too 80% during the hour before and you will be good to go
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby NapoleonD » Mon Jun 24, 2013 20:58 pm

The shorter the race/TT the harder the warm up.

I build up to TT pace over 10 mins, have 1 min rec, then 5 mins of 30secs hard, 30secs rec, 5 mins rec then repeat 5 of 30 hard 30 off. Cool down for a couple of mins then get off, wander about, have a chat, a drink, a poo or whatever for a few mins, get back on and ride to the start line. YMMV
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby ednino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 06:24 am

Thanks lads. I'll try it and see if it makes a difference to my time :o

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby mentalalex » Tue Jun 25, 2013 09:12 am

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that will do fine
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby BigMat » Tue Jun 25, 2013 13:33 pm

Will try that Sky one on Sunday. Problem is I'm off at 6:14am and its 40 minutes from where I live. Whether I can get up in time for any kind of structured warm up is debatable. Alternative is to ride there, but will I then be knackered? (its a 45 min ride at pace - around 12 rolling miles)

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby sub55 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 18:44 pm

Interestingly , i took part in a lab study at the local uni along with several other people ,ranging from joe public to elite level athletes. The post grad students along with their lecture and prof were ascertaining the amount and intensity of a warm up prior to physical exertion. Surprisingly ,the results that were written up and published in a science journal suggest that there is no benefit from a pre event warm up.
Since these tests were completed i've on occasions not bothered and to be quite honest , there is no discernible difference in the final results. Make of that what you will.
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby JackPozzi » Tue Jun 25, 2013 18:54 pm

Park as close as possible to start. Ride to start.

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby lawrences » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:31 am

sub55 wrote:Interestingly , i took part in a lab study at the local uni along with several other people ,ranging from joe public to elite level athletes. The post grad students along with their lecture and prof were ascertaining the amount and intensity of a warm up prior to physical exertion. Surprisingly ,the results that were written up and published in a science journal suggest that there is no benefit from a pre event warm up.
Since these tests were completed i've on occasions not bothered and to be quite honest , there is no discernible difference in the final results. Make of that what you will.


It will help avoid injuries though.

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby danowat » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:38 pm

lawrences wrote:It will help avoid injuries though.


Hmm..........not convinced.......

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby VaVaVeteran » Thu Jun 27, 2013 17:24 pm

It depends how cold it is. A warm evening, being a bit rushed (elevated heart rate and blood pressure) and a formal warm-up might not make much difference. I set a PB for a '10' last week in just such circumstances. But on a chilly morning for example then a formal warm-up will almost certainly prepare heart and mind, muscle and sinew for the immediate and sustained effort to come. Something that gets you sweating lightly will be ideal.

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby NapoleonD » Thu Jun 27, 2013 18:53 pm

I took part in a lab study and with my warm up my simulated 4k pursuit was 35w higher compared to control and their warm up.
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby smidsy » Thu Jun 27, 2013 18:57 pm

Imagine doing your warm up with these though Nap :-)

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How cool would that be 8)
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby ednino » Thu Jun 27, 2013 19:17 pm

mentalalex wrote:Image

that will do fine


I like this because it says 'easy' twice! Sounds like the one for me :lol:

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby Neil Buckley » Fri Jun 28, 2013 21:08 pm

mentalalex wrote:Image

that will do fine


I've used this since it came out, works a treat. As for no warm up, that's just silly, going hard on cold muscles is just risking a torn muscle etc, no lactate buffering etc, just look at the Olympic track cyclists, team sky etc, I'm not having it says no is no benefit at all from warming up because their obviously is.

Not warming up is effectively hampering yourself before you have started.
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby sub55 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 17:06 pm

Neil Buckley wrote:
I've used this since it came out, works a treat. As for no warm up, that's just silly, going hard on cold muscles is just risking a torn muscle etc, no lactate buffering etc, just look at the Olympic track cyclists, team sky etc, I'm not having it says no is no benefit at all from warming up because their obviously is.

Not warming up is effectively hampering yourself before you have started.



I'm assuming you have a full protocol and analytical figures to support that claim.
All the figures must obviously exclude any placibo effect .
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby Neil Buckley » Sun Jun 30, 2013 17:42 pm

Yup I have, done the no warm up, warm up routine lots and in my other bits and bobs too and experiences of others too, but each to their own, I'm not going to say that's not going to work for you or not, because I don't want to get shot down by people under false names.
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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby SBezza » Mon Jul 01, 2013 13:51 pm

Warming up normally is more of a mental thing, to get you in the mindset of going hardish from the start. As for torn muscles and the like, highly unlikely in cycling, unless you are doing something like a kilo. If you go off that hard in a 10 mile TT, I would suggest having a warm up and going off slightly easier ;)

I know plenty of very fast riders that don't have a warm up, and I know plenty that do (myself included). I warm up because I personally perform better, that may not be the case for all, and to be honest I would find a protocol that works best for yourself by experimentation.

Back to the OP, you are very unlikely to use too much energy during a warm up, a 10 mile TT uses virtually nothing of the stored energy within the body if you eat a normal nutritious diet and don't starve yourself. Always drink fluids during the warm up though, water should be perfectly fine.

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby LegendLust » Mon Jul 01, 2013 16:30 pm

That Sky warm up isn't far off the one my coach prescribed for me.

Personally I find I go better with a good warm up, before I start my body is already in the hurt locker and primed for the effort, which means (especially for a 10) that I can start full gas, rather than having to ease myself into the effort

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Re: 10TT warm up

Postby NapoleonD » Mon Jul 01, 2013 19:02 pm

smidsy wrote:Imagine doing your warm up with these though Nap :-)

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How cool would that be 8)


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