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Chinese FM028 - UPDATES PAGE 4

Postby philhul » Wed Jun 01, 2011 19:32 pm

This is my new bike, technically a rb002 from Carbonzone, but the same as the FM028 from everyone else.

The steerer tube is to be cut again when I'm happy with the position. Also, the seat post is to be raised a little but will be swapped as the Thomson ones with setback look rubbish unless there is quite a bit showing.

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Frame& Forks: Carbonzone FM028 finished with matt clearcoat
Bars: Ritchey WCS Logic II Alloy
Stem: Ricthey WCS 4 Axis Alloy
Headset: Neco
Bar Tape: Arundel Cork

Brake Callipers - Planet X Ultralight CNC

Shifters: SRAM Force
Cables: SRAM
Front Mech: SRAM Force
Rear Mech: SRAM Force

Seat: San Marco RegalE FX Carbon
Seat Post: Thomson Elite
Seat Post Clamp: Thomson

Cranks: SRAM Force
Chain: KMC X10L
Cassette: SRAM PG1070
Pedals: Look Keo Classic
Bottom Bracket: SRAM GXP

Wheel: Carbonzone 60mm Carbon Clicnhers
Tube: Nutrak 700 x 18-23
Tire: Continental GP4000s
Skewers: Planet X Ti & Carbon

Accessories: 2 x Planet X Bottle Cages finished in matte clear coat

Weight: I don't have any scales suitable for the whole thing but have weighed all components on the postal scales at work. Its came to a very portly 7752g :oops:. However, it had Force brakes and no name skewers and by swapping both I have already saved 125g so am down to 7627g. My goal is under 6.8kg and I will be getting a lighter wheelset and swapping the seat post, handle bars and cables. Hopefully this will do it.
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Postby Pseudonym » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:27 pm

interesting build. I wouldn't have changed the Force calipers - they are some of the lightest and best stoppers around.

That 60mm wheelset has got to be at least 2kg - you could lose half a kilo easily by swapping those....

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Postby NapoleonD » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:30 pm

Looks great :)

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Postby all show no go » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:33 pm

Veeery nice. I've just bought a frame from the same place on Ebay. They are brilliant framesets for the money.
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Postby Clank » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:40 pm

Dayum, that looks ninja!

It appeals!
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Postby philhul » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:48 pm

Thanks!!

The wheels are 1704g but I still hope to lose a good chunk there. Don't really want to have to go tubular though.

I saved 65g on the brakes and I've seen plenty of good reports on the Planet X ones - plus they are black!!. Still got the Force ones in case I change my mind but they will be going on ebay fairly soon.

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Postby Bill-87 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:50 pm

Love it.

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Postby NapoleonD » Wed Jun 01, 2011 20:58 pm

Don't change the brakes for weight savings!

Been there, done that, gone back.

If you are wanting to save weight, look elsewhere...

I think that you are overestimating the weight anyway...

Had the planet x ones, they look great and work OK but just don't have the power of proper dual pivots for a fatty like me.

Not a problem on a circuit racing / TT machine though.
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Postby leeroy72 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 21:02 pm

Nice bike, stealthy....maybe needs a touch of lime or orange IMO. 8)
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Postby philhul » Wed Jun 01, 2011 21:20 pm

OK - I'll keep the Force ones until I get a good few miles under the Planet X ones to make an informed decision.

By over estimating do you mean the actual weights, or the effect of the weight? If actual weights, I have pics of every component on the work digital postal scales so can prove it! In fact, looking at it has made me realise I made a mistake. Force brakes including pads 289g. Planet X including pads 207g. Therefore 82g saved. If the effect of weight, I don't mind, it's just a bit of fun really.

I may add some colour at some point. Quite like the black Canyons with orange on the inside of the forks and chain stays.

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Postby amaferanga » Thu Jun 02, 2011 09:47 am

That looks cool 8)

Is it part matt finish or can you see the weave everywhere?

Surprisingly little seat post showing and bars quite high relative to the seat - could you maybe have gone for a smaller frame size?
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Postby maxlite » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:29 am

Nice bike....lighter wheels is the way to go.

I'd def take spacers out from stem, agree on Thompson, a normal post with set back is preferable.
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Postby denzzz28 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:37 am

thats wicked!! i have always wondered how a chinese frame and fork would look like in a complete bike. im changing my frame soon and i will defenitely buy one of those frame sets/

so how much does your bike weights now??

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Postby GMB » Thu Jun 02, 2011 15:34 pm

Absolutely stunning!

There's something about a "logoless" bike that just looks really good. You can see the shape of the frame without the eye being drawn to blatant advertising.

I've got a Planet X SL Pro which had PX carbon 50 wheels - The words Planet X must have appeared over 30 times!

How are you finding the wheels? I've ordered a set of clincher 50's from Carbonzone. Are you running 23's?

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Postby philhul » Thu Jun 02, 2011 21:10 pm

Is it part matt finish or can you see the weave everywhere?

Surprisingly little seat post showing and bars quite high relative to the seat - could you maybe have gone for a smaller frame size?


It is all matt clearcoat finish but some parts have been painted black underneath, such as around the bottom bracket and around the drop outs, to hide what would otherwise be untidy joins in the top layer of weave. If you look closely at the Carbonzone frames on ebay that are finished in gloss clearcoat they are also painted black in these areas.

The size is spot on. My last bike was one size too small and I was always trying to shuffle black on the saddle even though it had a setback seat post and was all the way back on the rails. Did 25 miles tonight and this one is great. The seat post is already higher than in the pic and will getting raised a bit more. The stem certainly won't be going any higher, I might try lower. Honestly, it's that particular seatpost which does it no favours. I'll post another pic once I've changed it and have got the position sorted, it will look fine.



thats wicked!! i have always wondered how a chinese frame and fork would look like in a complete bike. im changing my frame soon and i will defenitely buy one of those frame sets/

so how much does your bike weights now??


Thanks. I can't guarantee that other people won't encounter problems but based on my experience I'd say go for it. It's currently 7672g but I will be working on that...


I've got a Planet X SL Pro which had PX carbon 50 wheels - The words Planet X must have appeared over 30 times!

How are you finding the wheels? I've ordered a set of clincher 50's from Carbonzone. Are you running 23's?


I very, very nearly pushed the button on a Planet X more than once before I decided on this. As for the wheels, only done 25 miles on them, but they are stiff on hills which would have had my previous wheels flexing, spin up well and seem to maintain the speed nicely. It was quite breezy tonight and I was worried about side winds but whilst I was aware of it it wasn't enough to push me out in front of a car or make me nervous in any way. in stronger winds it might be a problem but I don't think they'd be too bad. The tyres are 23s yes. They were extremely difficult to get on but I think that might be common to gp4000s? Now that they tyres are stretched they come off and go back on easily.


The best thing is the carbon frame. I honestly didn't expect much difference over my previous aluminium Trek and thought that people just got carried away with their expensive bike but it does make a difference. You still feel the imperfections in the road, but the edge is taken off any bumps and crashes. It's great!!!

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Postby warrior4life » Fri Jun 03, 2011 19:17 pm

Love it.

I changed my force callipers for px as well, used them for over a year and no problems.

Ive just sent off for a chinese carbon ebay saddle at 90g.
I sat on a similar one and it was great, £34, Hopefully this one will be good, worth a gamble.

Some pretty light bars and stems as well.

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Postby warrior4life » Fri Jun 03, 2011 19:29 pm

Just curious how much the actual frame weighs?
Which big name frame is this based on/most similar to?

Looking forward to seeing the updated pictures.

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Postby Berk Bonebonce » Fri Jun 03, 2011 20:32 pm

warrior4life wrote:Which big name frame is this based on/most similar to?.


I've got the ISP version of the Greatkeen FM028 and after lots of looking have decided that it is not actually an unpainted version of anything else. I believe it is a frame Greatkeen make for low volume, private-type sales.

But it is like a Cube Agree.

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Postby philhul » Fri Jun 03, 2011 22:19 pm

Size 54 frame was 1156g and fork 401g uncut.

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Postby NapoleonD » Fri Jun 03, 2011 23:12 pm

When I said overestimated the weights I meant I thought it would be lighter than that...


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