good durable tyres for autumn / winter commute

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Postby Asprilla » Tue Aug 03, 2010 13:56 pm

I must attend the School of Avoiding Crap in the Roads as in the summer I average one fairy visit a month and in the winter it's closer to one ever two weeks.

I've used GP4000, GP4000S, Gatorskins and Krylion Carbons. All were pretty much the same for punctures so at the end of last winter I fitted Duranos on the fixed (which i only use in the winter) and I was P-free during Feb and March, something previously unheard of.
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Postby turnerjohn » Tue Aug 03, 2010 13:59 pm

andy83 wrote:im kind of sold now, thanks for the advice

I had the marathon plus on my old bike that got nicked and i really liked them


+1 for Marathon plus...never punture...touch wood :?
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Postby BOYDIE » Tue Aug 03, 2010 15:35 pm

I have been using a set of Bontrager select invert hardcase 700x35, with the arimid bead,puncture resistant and grip well in snow,rain, Ice and that frozen hardpack snow/Ice.Ive ran them for 2 winters and are showing very little wear.

It isnt a fast tyre but not slow for a commute either,and the puncture resistance is fantastic, unless you like changing a tube in a snow storm on the way home in the dark. :lol:
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Postby andrewc3142 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 15:36 pm

Had GP 4 Seasons on my road bike and recently switched to 4000s based on how much I liked them on my fixed.

Both are very good, but the 4000s seem faster and the handling a little better.

No visits in the last 5 years so no difference between the two on that front.
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Postby Asprilla » Tue Aug 03, 2010 15:38 pm

andrewc3142 wrote:No visits in the last 5 years so no difference between the two on that front.


How can someone not have a puncture in 5 years?

How many miles do you do and do you emply a team of cycle butlers to sweep the road in front of you?
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Postby andrewc3142 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 15:43 pm

30 miles each way (sometimes taking the train back, though) plus weekend rides.

I guess I'm lucky. Until I ride back this evening, I expect.
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Postby Cafewanda » Tue Aug 03, 2010 15:53 pm

Asprilla wrote:[How many miles do you do and do you emply a team of cycle butlers to sweep the road in front of you?


........ and can I hire them please? :lol:
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Postby MonkeyMonster » Tue Aug 03, 2010 15:54 pm

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its a nice tyre.
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Postby antfly » Tue Aug 03, 2010 16:16 pm

vorsprung wrote:
antfly wrote:I use the conti GP4000S all year round without problems but the GP 4 seasons are tougher.


GP4000S must be made of cheese then

I get about 2000km out of a GP4 Season before it becomes a puncture magnet. They are good tyres when new but don't last


I`ve done nearly six thousand miles on mine {GP4000s} and the front one still has lots of life in it.
The back one is probably ready for replacing but no visits for ages.
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Postby marcusjb » Tue Aug 03, 2010 16:36 pm

+1 for GP 4 Seasons

Tough as old boots - never had a visit from the PF on them.
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Postby cjcp » Tue Aug 03, 2010 20:14 pm

Asprilla wrote:4000S tyres are softer and grippier. They are my summer tyres and I've had about one visit form the fairy each month this summerr.

Seriously, if you want durable and long lasting, but aren't bothered about speed look at the Durano and Durano S. They are bombproof and will last forever.


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Postby cjcp » Tue Aug 03, 2010 20:16 pm

Asprilla wrote:I've used GP4000, GP4000S, Gatorskins and Krylion Carbons. All were pretty much the same for punctures so at the end of last winter I fitted Duranos on the fixed (which i only use in the winter) and I was P-free during Feb and March, something previously unheard of.


And again: +1! :)
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Postby Christophe3967 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 20:43 pm

Gatorskins on my commute bike are OK, but am also commuting on my road bike now - with Conti 4 seasons, which are much nicer than the gators, although nowhere near the Pro Race 3s. Now that I've ridden on 4 seasons, I wouldn't buy another set of Gators.
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Postby itboffin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 21:15 pm

Conti hardshells

I shouldn't say this buuuuut zero visits since using those :roll:
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Postby andy83 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 22:33 pm

itboffin wrote:Conti hardshells

I shouldn't say this buuuuut zero visits since using those :roll:


that is brave from you :)

I noticed today i can get the durano s in red to match my bike (yes im a tart) so now im definitely sold, thanks for all replies.

As for whats different in the winter, the roads near me get covered with rubbish off the trees etc, and i want summin a bit stronger as riding in the dark (with lights of course) makes things that more difficult to avoid the rubbish areas on the road which is quite a lot
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Postby StuAff » Tue Aug 03, 2010 23:30 pm

cjcp wrote:
Asprilla wrote:I've used GP4000, GP4000S, Gatorskins and Krylion Carbons. All were pretty much the same for punctures so at the end of last winter I fitted Duranos on the fixed (which i only use in the winter) and I was P-free during Feb and March, something previously unheard of.


And again: +1! :)


And a further +1. In the little time I've ridden the Viner since it got sorted (grr injuries!) been very impressed with the Durano Pluses.
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Postby Rolf F » Wed Aug 04, 2010 09:12 am

I have Duranos on my Look for all year round - got stick for the weight of them but I've not tried anything lighter yet to compare. And I've not done enough miles to comment sensibly on how great they are at puncture-proofness.

Anyway though - they are being touted here as almost interchangeable but the Durano is much lighter than the Plus.

So, the Plus should be much more punctureproof but the issue would be by how much (to justify the 250 grams of extra weight of the Plus).

PS - I like my Duranos because the font goes well with that on my Neutrons and Look frame :lol:
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Postby essex-commuter » Wed Aug 04, 2010 09:58 am

After reading this I'm thinking of replacing my Marathon +'s with Durano's when they wear out (back one is just losing it's centre tread pattern now).

A pair of Durano Pluses instead of Marathon Pluses would mean a weight reduction of just under 14oz, that's quite a lot really.
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Postby vorsprung » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:15 am

biondino wrote:Seriously, what do people think happens to the roads in winter? You're screwed on ice anyway, so that's not it. It rains marginally more? Race tyres cut through the water very efficiently. Grit on the road? Not where I ride.

Or is it that you're that much less keen to have to fix a puncture in the cold and wet? Fair enough. However, on my Ultremos I've had less than a puncture every two thousand miles so I'll take those odds.


What happens is that there is more rain
The rain washes sharps onto the road
Then the wetness acts as a lubricant to help the sharps penetrate the casing

In autumn there is the additional problem of thorns and other nasty organic matter

So your puncture every 2,000 mile (I agree perfectly acceptable odds) is more likely in the winter
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Postby vorsprung » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:27 am

JonGinge wrote:
vorsprung wrote:I get about 2000km out of a GP4 Season before it becomes a puncture magnet. They are good tyres when new but don't last
Really? I've had a GP4 Season on the front wheel of my commuter for about 2 and half years. Only had a couple of visits in that time. Needs replacing now, though. I guess YMMV really does apply :?


yep, here's my stats for tyres

700 x 26C Panaracer Stratius Pro 4,237km, 1 puncture. Usually ride this bike in the dry

700 x 28C Continental 4 seasons 2,629km, 5 punctures.

700 x 28C Schwalbe Marathon+ 13,156km, 1 puncture (at 12,000km). Ride all weather

700 x 28C Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech, 0 punctures, 1,987km

700 x 25C Michelin Pro Race 2, 0 punctures, 1,525km

It's the second set of GP 4 Seasons that behaved like that. After approx 2000km they suddenly go all 'orrible. If you examine the casing they are covered in lots of tiny nicks. These seem to reach a crisis state at 2,000km. Great tyres until 2,000km though, I did a wet Paris-Brest-Paris 1200km on a new set.
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