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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby Monkeypump » Tue Sep 25, 2012 18:38 pm

beancounter wrote:
Monkeypump wrote:I'm going through T5 tomorrow so can ask in Mappin & Webb for you. I've used them before and they're very helpful.

What exactly do you want? Steel/black or steel/white (or something else)?


That's kind of you!

I'm after the Daytona 116520 with white face, list price £7,950

Any help etc......

bc


Sorry bc, they weren't much help. The chap I normally deal with wasn't in, and the guy I spoke to gave a pretty generic answer. Apparently they don't stock the steel models at their airport branches as supply is so erratic. White gold, rose gold, etc - no problem, but that doesn't help you. They did suggest speaking to their Bond Street store, which is the Mappin & Webb Rolex main branch, but he didn't expect them to hold stock even if they can get one.

As mentioned above, there is a chap in Burlington Arcade who might be useful, but I didn't see any Daytonas last time I was there. He had a lovely Deep Sea for your sort of money though :wink: There is also a vintage Rolex store there, and although they don't tend to stock Daytonas, they have some lovely old watches.

Otherwise it's the usual suspects - Watches of Switzerland, Watchfinder, etc. Harrods might be worth a try too.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby mrushton » Tue Sep 25, 2012 21:06 pm

There is a used one (Jan 2011) on http://www.theoldwatchshop.com for £7k,comes with full documentation,box etc. I've had a few watches from the owner (Mike) and he's a watch fanatic (amazing collection). It's under the Rolex section of the site. Listed as available today and it's the white face. Looks mint from the pics and that's the one I'd have and save a grand.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby beancounter » Wed Sep 26, 2012 07:21 am

Monkeypump, thanks for trying - much appreciated.

Watches of Switzerland now hold the record for the most ridiculous waiting list at FIVE years :shock:

I'm still "hoping" to source something through an AD before I go the grey or second hand route. I'm aware of all the grey dealers in London and also people like Ian Blowers in Hull and, indeed, The Old Watch Shop in Southport.

Grey premium for an unworn 116520 appears to be £800 - £1000 which is significant on top of the £8k rrp.

Thanks again

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby mrushton » Wed Sep 26, 2012 09:12 am

The shop I mentioned above is a Rolex-trained dealer and moves a lot of watches. Chances are that Daytona will be a 'safe queen' so it will be as new, you save money and no waiting, but you pays the money....

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby KentPhil » Wed Sep 26, 2012 13:15 pm

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby feltkuota » Wed Sep 26, 2012 15:14 pm

If I had 8k burning a hole in my pocket and wanted a watch then:

a Bremont EP120 Spitfire.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby verylonglegs » Wed Sep 26, 2012 18:06 pm

EdgarAllenPoe wrote:On a slightly different note do people cycle in their watches? I wear a Submariner and usually take it off when I'm cycling just in case I should wipe out for whatever reason and scratch it to pieces.


No I don't wear a watch on the bike, the main reason being I find a heavy divers watch can be quite uncomfortable after a while due to the vibrations from holding onto the bars making it move around and it will chafe a fair bit. And it would look daft along with cycling kit too, obviously :wink:

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby guinea » Wed Sep 26, 2012 19:04 pm

Here's one of my Panerai watches that went down the road.

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My hip came off worse.

I wear my watch on the bike, just not leather straps as they get smelly.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby ben@31 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 20:52 pm

beancounter wrote:So, I've just sold my Ducati after 12 years of ownership.
- what would you buy for £8k?

Thanks for any advice forthcoming

bc


Bizarrely if I had £8k to burn I would buy a Ducati 996 SPS and not the watch. I don't have a bike licence so I would keep the Ducati in my living room to look at, as a piece of art. When 996's came out all them years ago, I thought they were the most beautifully designed transport ever. Once when I stopped off at a Ducati dealer to look at one, another was started up in the workshop and the throttle blipped a few times, god the engine noise was fantastic.

They're a babe magnet, must be hard riding down the road with these clinging to the front...

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby EdgarAllenPoe » Thu Sep 27, 2012 07:13 am

guinea wrote:Here's one of my Panerai watches that went down the road.

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My hip came off worse.

I wear my watch on the bike, just not leather straps as they get smelly.


Christ that's it, never wearing my Sub cycling again, I would cry!

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby beancounter » Thu Sep 27, 2012 07:13 am

ben@31 wrote:Bizarrely if I had £8k to burn I would buy a Ducati 996 SPS


Bizarrely that's exactly what I've just sold, y2k model full Ohlins etc.

12 years of ownership and 18,000 miles.

Only 800 miles in the last 3 years though, hence the sale.

Life moves on.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby BowtomePhil » Thu Sep 27, 2012 07:20 am

Honda fireblade for me, love the style.

But if I had 8k burning a hole, my wife would spend it. So I spend everything I get then I don't amass that much.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby Monkeypump » Thu Sep 27, 2012 13:08 pm

verylonglegs wrote:
EdgarAllenPoe wrote:On a slightly different note do people cycle in their watches? I wear a Submariner and usually take it off when I'm cycling just in case I should wipe out for whatever reason and scratch it to pieces.


No I don't wear a watch on the bike, the main reason being I find a heavy divers watch can be quite uncomfortable after a while due to the vibrations from holding onto the bars making it move around and it will chafe a fair bit. And it would look daft along with cycling kit too, obviously :wink:


As above, anything metal would (for me) be too heavy and clunk around. The fear of ruining something expensive also puts me off. I wear a years-old G-Shock for all sports - despite years of abuse, it's proved indestructable so far.

If I had £8k spare, the Deep Sea would be put on the back burner and the cash would go towards our wedding. Christ, being a grown-up is a drag sometimes.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby mrushton » Thu Sep 27, 2012 13:17 pm

Tell me about it. I moved a number of watches on (Panerai,Rolex,JLC,IWC) when my daughter was born as they were sat in a safebox never being worn and I decided to use the money elsewhere. Things had got out of hand tho' when I flew to Paris to commission a strap for the Panerai. Owners of this brand will know the score.Plus I got annoyed in W of Switzerland when I was trying to purchase a Radiomir GMT/Alarm which they didn't seem to want to sell me!

http://www.paneristi.com for those who are interested

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby andyoh » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:48 am

Beancounter,

I've just picked up this thread. I've had a S/S Daytona black face for 7 years now and I wear it everyday, but not whilst riding the bike. I've had it serviced once and it has been faultless. If you want one quickly the best route is to go previously owned. Carr Watches near Liverpool Street Station in the City of London have a couple in their window. The last time I looked one in their window was also unworn. Unless you are prepared to wait via the AD route which as you are aware is around 2-5 years, go previously owned. Most of the previously owned examples have been serviced and look like new.

Good luck.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby Pinno » Mon Oct 01, 2012 20:35 pm

From a sheer engineering point of view, a watch is a fantasic piece of engineering. But I cannot believe the silly money people are willing to spend on a watch.
I rarely wear watches, I have 4 of them. I either take them off to wash my hands and leave them somewhere or they break. I wear a watch when I am on the continent on my right wrist so that it reminds me of the side of the car the verge should be on. There is a clock in my car, the kitchen, my mobile phone, my cycle computer, on the wall at work, on the cooker and time checks on the radio, my PC and on the TV.

So here is a thing - IF:
You don't want some serious hookers, viagra, cocaine, a new kitchen or bicycle or another motorbike and your house is done, why not give the money to the WWF, Greenpeace, MacMillan Cancer Relief or some Bear sanctuary ? Why buy an obscenely expensive watch that would amount to double or triple the salary of the average man in the 3rd/developing world ?
I would have no qualms whatsover with putting a12K, no 100K watch in my vice and taking great delight in smashing it into hundreds of mangled little pieces. I would never put something so obscenely expensive, vulgar and inappropriate on my wrist no matter what the reasons for buying one above £100 unless you were a diver or a pilot.
Carry on perpetuating the materialism veiled in terms of 'collector' or 'enthusiast', but don't ever use the term 'worth it' or 'investment' because you are not investing anything into the wellbeing or future of anything useful, only your odd eccentricities, vanities or egos.
I'll get the petrol... you come up with a reasoned argument other than 'its my money and i'll do what I like with it'.
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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby philthy3 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 21:06 pm

beancounter wrote:So, I've just sold my Ducati after 12 years of ownership. I'm a bit too old and knackered for sports bikes now so I won't be replacing it.

I don't feel the need for any more cycles so I'm going to blow the proceeds on another lifetime ambition, a Rolex Daytona.

To all those who know about such things:-

- is there still a waiting list - how long?
- white face or black face?
- what would you buy for £8k?

Thanks for any advice forthcoming

bc


Don't buy a Rolex, shop around and try and find a Patek Phillippe or a Vacheron Constantin at a low price. Alternatively an Audemars Piguet. But, a Raymond Weil is Swis made with excellent workings and a decent one won't cost much more than £1,000 leaving you with change to use elsewhere whilst still having a quality timepiece on your wrist.
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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby guinea » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:29 am

pinarello001 wrote:I would never put something so obscenely expensive, vulgar and inappropriate on my wrist no matter what the reasons for buying one above £100 unless you were a diver or a pilot.


Coming from a guy signing himself as Pinarello...

You could just as easily have written "I would never ride something so obscenely expensive, vulgar and inappropriate no matter what the reasons for buying one above £100 unless you were a professional cyclist."

Watches are amazingly beautiful and technical works of art. They are hugely expensive to make and as luxury items even more expensive to buy.

Unlike bikes. Which although beautiful and expensive cost tuppence to make.

However, if you think either watches or bikes are obscene, vulgar and inapopriate then it probably says more about you. Just let other wear what you like.

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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby GiantMike » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:00 am

I have a Breitling Aerospace Tornado F3 limited edition and a Casio G-Shock. Both tell the same time.

If I had £8000 I'd stick it in the bank with the rest of my money and retire a couple of months earlier.
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Re: Watch Enthusiasts - Rolex Daytona

Postby schweiz » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:03 am

guinea wrote:
pinarello001 wrote:I would never put something so obscenely expensive, vulgar and inappropriate on my wrist no matter what the reasons for buying one above £100 unless you were a diver or a pilot.


Coming from a guy signing himself as Pinarello...

You could just as easily have written "I would never ride something so obscenely expensive, vulgar and inappropriate no matter what the reasons for buying one above £100 unless you were a professional cyclist."

Watches are amazingly beautiful and technical works of art. They are hugely expensive to make and as luxury items even more expensive to buy.

Unlike bikes. Which although beautiful and expensive cost tuppence to make.

However, if you think either watches or bikes are obscene, vulgar and inapopriate then it probably says more about you. Just let other wear what you like.


+1

My watch and my BMC cost about the same amount. I know which one is worth more in terms of R&D, workmanship, quality, materials and long term 'value' and it's not the one with the saddle!


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