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Viva Venezuela!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Mon Oct 08, 2012 14:25 pm

Venezuela re-elects socialist President Hugo Chavez for a 4th term. Chavez won the election with a 10 point lead over his closest rival, in spite of a difficult campaign for Chavez who has been battling cancer.

An important moment for Latin America.

On the campaign trail, president Chávez vowed that if re-elected he would use the next six years to correct past mistakes, to continue to build a socialist alternative to the capitalist model, and to continue using the country's vast oil revenues to redistribute wealth, promote the revolution overseas and to bolster ideological allies such as Cuba and Nicaragua.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oc ... n-election

Bravo Chavez!

ETA: Turnout for the vote was over 80%. Western politicians take note.
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby pauldavid » Mon Oct 08, 2012 14:37 pm

Good for them





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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby symo » Mon Oct 08, 2012 16:47 pm

Yay, his revolution continues, just like in Russia, which was a massive success of nationalization.

Wow, oil production down since nationalized! That helps to redistribute the wealth eh? 8)
Go Hugo, pretty soon you will import fuel.
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby Cleat Eastwood » Mon Oct 08, 2012 17:00 pm

Yay indeed - he gave a large amount of the oil money to the poor. Thankfully he and the majority on venezuelan voters realise that a nations true strength isnt in viewing people as commodities. Haha I wonder how much the CIA wasted trying to oust him.
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby dw300 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 18:07 pm

Petrol £0.02 per litre .. I'd vote for him.
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Mon Oct 08, 2012 22:04 pm

Cleat Eastwood wrote:Haha I wonder how much the CIA wasted trying to oust him.


Over the years (think Cuba etc) they have spent so much on trying to oust various leaders they don't like they, rather ironically, could have gone some way to providing universal healthcare in their own country...
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby dylanfernley » Tue Oct 09, 2012 09:04 am

An important victory for the human race, although for me he had a mandate to go much further than he has, his leadership and policies have provided an anti-dote to free market exploitation that is the norm in most of the world. it gives an insight of what could be possible if wealth redistribution occurred on a bigger scale, especially in developed economies.....viva la revolution

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Tue Oct 09, 2012 09:25 am

Some quick pics:

Supporters celebrate
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Announcing victory
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Viva Venezuela!
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby bompington » Tue Oct 09, 2012 09:37 am

Yep, another 6 years of socialist paradise.
Strikes me as a pretty poor return on all that oil money, unless of course staying in power is the only aim.

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby Peat » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:15 am

Cleat Eastwood wrote:Yay indeed - he gave a large amount of the oil money to the poor.


He's also given alot to various racing teams to get people like Pastor Maldonado, Ernesto Viso and Rodolfo Gonzalez up the motorsport ladder.

EUR 29Million alone to Williams F1 for the 2012 season.

Yeah, man of the people...... :?

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby amun1000 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:58 am

Spent sometime in Venezuela whilst my wife was working there in a hospital about 15 years ago and I can say its a fantastic country.
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No tourism to speak of - gotta watch out for the gun shots at night and more specifically taxi drivers with guns - had a few run ins with them. Its got the highest cable in the world (Merida), shop with most ice cream flavours. Carribean coast line
The country has so much to offer all the usual (food, music, women, wildlife). Just dont expect to pay your telephone bill in a hurry (usually takes about a day)

Places to check out are Merida, Choroni and Caracas.
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Tue Oct 09, 2012 18:05 pm

Good little video on Chavez's re-election at Al-Jazeera: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/ins ... terAccount
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby bompington » Wed Oct 10, 2012 04:34 am

MaxwellBygraves wrote:Good little video on Chavez's re-election at Al-Jazeera: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/ins ... terAccount

Al-Jazeera - another bastion of liberal thinking and justice. Still, as long as you're anti-The Great Satan, eh?

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Wed Oct 10, 2012 07:47 am

Nice little article in the Guardian comment section by Seamus Milne: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... in-america
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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby dylanfernley » Wed Oct 10, 2012 09:14 am

someone writes a critical piece in a liberal dogs-dinner of a paper, and you think that is somehow a stick to berate an opponent of western imperialism with. Sure he's not going to be perfect, he has to shoot with the ars* he has,but the election result was clear, more people trust him than the oily opponent, who represents washington.

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby Pross » Wed Oct 10, 2012 09:29 am

dylanfernley wrote:someone writes a critical piece in a liberal dogs-dinner of a paper, and you think that is somehow a stick to berate an opponent of western imperialism with. Sure he's not going to be perfect, he has to shoot with the ars* he has,but the election result was clear, more people trust him than the oily opponent, who represents washington.


Whereas the artcile from the same paper posted by Maxwell immediately above with the opposite view is somehow a true reflection of this utopia?

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:22 am

Pretty cool photo here. Taken the day before the election.

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby rodgers73 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 16:19 pm

I don't know what to make of him as I know little of how Venezuala has changed or how it was before he was elected .

Annoying the CIA and his backing of regimes like Cuba doesn't seem like much of a reason to celebrate his victory though.

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Re: Viva Venezuela!

Postby dylanfernley » Wed Oct 10, 2012 17:57 pm

It boils down to your political perspective,if you lean to the left then you would be broadly in favour of chavez-- if you are in the other camp-- then you would not.

Its easy for many who are nice and cosy in the west to cast aspersions on regimes in other parts of the world, the picture from a working class Venezuelan will be very different. FWIW , i went a lot to that region in the early eighties,and it was pretty bad on many levels, all the regimes were very cosy with Reagan and co-- do you recall the contra 'affair' in Nicaragua, where despite a ban from congress, colonel North used drug money to arm a private army to topple a democratically elected govt , because they were 'left' leaning.

Cuba has been a beacon of resistance to US imperialism for over 50 years, despite all the embargoes, dirty tricks, they survive against the odds, yet have a health care system better than the US-- people go to Cuba for eye treatment,from all over.They have more doctors per head than any other state, when hurricanes occur, the state mobilises and less loss of life occurs than any neighbouring island, they are an example of what can be done under a system that is run for the benefit of the majority and not the minority.


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