10 -42 T cassette!

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10 -42 T cassette!

Postby nicklouse » Mon Jul 02, 2012 17:58 pm

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby Thewaylander » Mon Jul 02, 2012 17:59 pm

Looks awesome does it not!

Very possibly my favorite looking product for this year.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby nicklouse » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:08 pm

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby bennett_346 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:17 pm

erm. wow. when would you possibly use that??

nevermind just saw its for 1x

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby robertpb » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:21 pm

I can see the bottom of that mech snorkelling through the mire at times.
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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby Chunkers1980 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:23 pm

Mech only has to handle 32. X3s are about 45, so shorter cages can be used.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby Chunkers1980 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:27 pm

I think this is the solution to everything geared externally with chains.

32 up front will cover most things.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby bennett_346 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:35 pm

It'll still never be enough range for me. I use the 22t+36t loads in my regular areas, as well as the 42t+11t a fair amount on the same rides.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby Chunkers1980 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 18:42 pm

Yes, I do sort of agree with that. Just you don't really need that higher gear, you can spin a bit more to compensate. 11t to 10t is a high percentage difference.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Jul 02, 2012 19:36 pm

Shame it's SRAM :lol:
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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby lawman » Mon Jul 02, 2012 19:41 pm

the 42t part is too far, and imo, a 9t cog would better at the bottom end. a 9-38t would be about right i reckon, although tbh, a 9-36 would allow a 32t ring, and then frankly if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.

I await a shimano version with electronics and said range cassette :lol: (clutching at straws much?)

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Jul 02, 2012 19:46 pm

lawman wrote:if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.

Most? Most things are fine. But granny rings are still needed on SOME climbs.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby supersonic » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:07 pm

lawman wrote:the 42t part is too far, and imo, a 9t cog would better at the bottom end. a 9-38t would be about right i reckon, although tbh, a 9-36 would allow a 32t ring, and then frankly if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.

I await a shimano version with electronics and said range cassette :lol: (clutching at straws much?)


You wouldn't have a hope in hell of climbing some stuff here on 32.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby MDobs » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:23 pm

supersonic wrote:
lawman wrote:the 42t part is too far, and imo, a 9t cog would better at the bottom end. a 9-38t would be about right i reckon, although tbh, a 9-36 would allow a 32t ring, and then frankly if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.


You wouldn't have a hope in hell of climbing some stuff here on 32.


YeehaaMcgee wrote:
lawman wrote:if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.

Most? Most things are fine. But granny rings are still needed on SOME climbs.



surely he's not arguing that, merely saying if you can't climb 'most' things [which is obviously dependent on your area/route/location/type of riding etc] in a 32 you shouldn't be using a 1x drivetrain, that's a valid point surely as most 1x won't use less than a 32 up front.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby oodboo » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:28 pm

Something that big with catch on a lot of things but I don't think it'll ever catch on. Might be ok for people who only ride well groomed trail centre stuff.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:31 pm

MDobs wrote:
supersonic wrote:
lawman wrote:the 42t part is too far, and imo, a 9t cog would better at the bottom end. a 9-38t would be about right i reckon, although tbh, a 9-36 would allow a 32t ring, and then frankly if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.


You wouldn't have a hope in hell of climbing some stuff here on 32.


YeehaaMcgee wrote:
lawman wrote:if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.

Most? Most things are fine. But granny rings are still needed on SOME climbs.



surely he's not arguing that, merely saying if you can't climb 'most' things [which is obviously dependent on your area/route/location/type of riding etc] in a 32 you shouldn't be using a 1x drivetrain, that's a valid point surely as most 1x won't use less than a 32 up front.

But with a 42T at the rear, and say a 34 on the front, you'll get up some pretty damned steep stuff. Maybe negating the need for a granny entirely.
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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby bails87 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:32 pm

MDobs wrote:
supersonic wrote:
lawman wrote:the 42t part is too far, and imo, a 9t cog would better at the bottom end. a 9-38t would be about right i reckon, although tbh, a 9-36 would allow a 32t ring, and then frankly if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.


You wouldn't have a hope in hell of climbing some stuff here on 32.


YeehaaMcgee wrote:
lawman wrote:if you can't climb most things in a 32/36 combo, you shouldn't be on a 1x drivetrain.

Most? Most things are fine. But granny rings are still needed on SOME climbs.



surely he's not arguing that, merely saying if you can't climb 'most' things [which is obviously dependent on your area/route/location/type of riding etc] in a 32 you shouldn't be using a 1x drivetrain, that's a valid point surely as most 1x won't use less than a 32 up front.

But isn't that the point? That you can use a 1x11 where you wouldn't be able to use a 1x9 or 10.

As for wanting a higher gear range.....That's a daft comment, just put a bigger chainring on, it'll do the same without having to redesign the freehub 'standard'! :lol:
Edit: ah, this uses a special freehub too. But my point still stands.
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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby paul.skibum » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:33 pm

oodboo wrote:Something that big with catch on a lot of things but I don't think it'll ever catch on. Might be ok for people who only ride well groomed trail centre stuff.

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Yeah I am hitting my cassette on stuff all the time. They should make that 42 tooth a bash guard instead. :roll:

I reckon a 32/42 setup is the same as a 22/28 set up ratio wise - I currently have 22/32 as my lowest gear so seems like I'd be slightly compromised but it might not kill me I guess especially as I'd save many many 100ths of grams losing one chain ring and my wallet would be lighter too.
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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby supersonic » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:34 pm

A 1x10 might work very well though with a lower ring - use a 28 ring, then your low gear would be 28/42 (0.6666), equivalent to a 22/33 set up. Top end would be 28/9, same as a 38/11. Nice range, but not for all. Or even less up front.

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Re: 10 -42 T cassette!

Postby bennett_346 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 20:36 pm

Ditto the "it's sram" comments. Ditched my sram X9 10 speed last weekend for some shimano slx and so far its in another league.


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